Row with neighbour about parking

Row with neighbour about parking

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CasuallyDressed

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Saturday 22nd October 2016
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This has probably been discussed here hundreds of times, so figured you guys would have some advice!

My partner and I live in a block of flats with one allocated parking space on site which she gets. I park nearby, in this case across the road.

Today the owner of the house which I like to park in front of (I can see my car perfectly from the front room window and it's directly under a street lamp) came rumbling out with his son to kick off about it. He has his driveway with 3 cars already parked in it, but his son's work van doesn't fit on the drive and apparently I keep parking in "his spot" on the road. Road has no yellow lines or boxes or anything. Free to park wherever there isn't a dropped curb. I told him as much and his response was that a couple of years ago a bunch of cars were burned out or had their tyres slashed for parking over there :-/

Obviously I lodged a complaint with the local police because he threatened my vehicle. I've since moved it to a place that won't rustle his jimmies so much.

Is there anything else I can do? Police said that the veiled threat doesn't mean a thing, if my car gets damaged then that can't be used as motive or whatever. I like a quiet life but at the same time he wound me up and I don't like the idea of just letting him bully me.

Advice appreciated!

CasuallyDressed

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Saturday 22nd October 2016
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dacouch said:
Some friends I know had a similar problem with a neighboor, they purchased a very beaten up but legal Metro for £100 with tax and mot and parked it outside said neighboors house permanently
Ooooh that's tempting. Would I need to insure it too if I'm essentially just dumping it? There's an old banger on Gumtree for £100 with MOT until next August.

CasuallyDressed

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Saturday 22nd October 2016
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egor110 said:
Yes because your dumping it on a public road.

How about a caravan ?
Sounds good. Also just found out that if the driveway is empty then you're legally allowed to park across it.

So I could dump a caravan blocking his driveway when he decides to take everyone out.

I'm rubbing my hands gleefully but I'll probably never do it lol

CasuallyDressed

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Monday 24th October 2016
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s3fella said:
Everyone saying buy a 500 transit to piss the guy off, what a daft idea. OP cannot park in the space and it costs him 500 quid, it's retarded.
OP, you know the law, your entitled to park there, as is he. The trouble you have, and you know you have, is that this guy may well key your car, and it may cost you as you may not be able to prove it. Also, they have how many cars versus how many you have? If they start parking all theirs on the road, you may not have anywhere in the street to park yours.
It is not worth getting involved in an argument, IMHO. In fact, I'd actively try to appease the chap if I were you. Understand his position, whether it be convenience, security, maybe his son leaves for work dead early and they don't want to upset neighbours up the street with him starting his van early, outside their own house it wakes them up! Who knows? But it is obviously something that bothers him, so why not try to get along with him and sort something else out?
Your car may well end up being far less at risk parked up the street or out the way of your sight, after all, it may be visible from your front room, but you don't sleep there, and don't watch it 24 hours! It's just not worth the hassle IMO, and you never know, if you concede to your neighbour you may end up getting along ok and having someone you can ask the odd favour of, after all, HE knows the law too and knows that he can only ask you to appease him.
I think you're giving my neighbour far too much credit. While I agree with most of what you said, saying that he knows the law (he doesn't, he's dead set that the space outside his house is his) is incorrect and implying that I can have any kind of friendly relationship with a mouthy thug who threatens strangers is simply wrong.

I've decided to move my car a few houses down. Unfortunately I can no longer see it (agreed, I don't sleep in the lounge, but now if I hear a car alarm I can't just peak out to make sure it's not me) but rather that than leaving it at semi permanent risk by parking it outside his house.

I don't like it, I'm not happy about it, I detest being bullied, and the other half seems more p*ssed off about it than me. It's a sh*tty situation which he alone has caused. If he were civil about it then I would've backed down and said fair enough. But he wasn't. He immediately started yelling (which is a quick way to wind me up) and threatened to damage my property. He threw civility out the window straight away. People like him don't deserve courtesy.

CasuallyDressed

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Monday 24th October 2016
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Trabi601 said:
Is the neighbourhood really so bad you need to be able to see your car from the flat?

If it is, parking discussions with neighbours are the least of your worries.
There's nothing wrong with the neighbourhood. Am I not allowed to be precious over my car? I do kinda like it, y'know.

CasuallyDressed

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Monday 24th October 2016
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The Surveyor said:
How precious are you over your partners car, park yours in the space that comes with the flat, simple.!

Seriously, are there any spare spaces in the car park attached to your flat? Any elderly people who may not have a car and would welcome a little extra income from a sub-let on their surplus parking space.
Booting my partner out of the car park is rather harsh on her, don't you think? "Babe, I don't feel like dealing with the tt over the road, so I'm kicking your car out so you can deal with him instead".

Literally every space in the block is taken. It's only a small block, around 10 flats. My actual neighbour (as in, the flat next door) goes away for a few months at the end of November and he's offered me his space while he's away. So there's a respite there.

CasuallyDressed

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Monday 24th October 2016
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xjay1337 said:
A little bit of civility goes a long way. To park your car outside of someone elses house, IN ANOTHER STREET (?) when you don't even actually live on that street (you claim it's your girlfriends property, so you stay there some / most nights?) is selfish.

Park your car where it will not annoy anyone, do you seriously fking stand there looking at it all night?
I remember when I was that protective about my car, now while I take reasonable steps once it's parked, it's parked and I go about my business.

You need to find property that is suitable for you. Mrs and I very recently got tenancy on a new property to rent.
Ok, a couple of points to set you straight.

1. Civility does go a long way, yes. He discarded civility at the earliest possible moment.
2. I don't park on another street. I park on the same street. I said this in my OP.
3. I do live on this street.
4. It is not my girlfriend's property. It is OUR property. Not sure where in my OP I claimed that I was visiting. The second line even says "My partner and I live...".
5. No I do not seriously f*cking stand there looking at it all night. Please see a previous post as to why I like to see my vehicle from the flat.
6. We have found a property that is suitable for us, thanks. One allocated space with additional on road parking. Much like how he has found a property with a driveway and additional on road parking.

Seriously, your post was so inaccurate I wonder why you bothered posting at all :-/

CasuallyDressed

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Monday 24th October 2016
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xjay1337 said:
Not really. I got one point wrong. Joint house. I must have muddled up in my head where you said she parks in the allocated parking spot.

The point says "One allocated parking spot".

Now I have not seen the Google Map link to your property and where you park. Maybe you can provide this.
But I would also be pretty pissed off if I lived in a house, you lived in a block of flats, and then parked your car outside my house.

Would I vandalise your car? No.
Would I say something to your face? Probably not.
Would I complain to my Mrs and dog about you? Absofkinlutley.

What you are doing is exactly the same as what the van man is doing except, in your case, you are parking outside his home.
I can absolutely understand where he is coming from.

And to run to the police saying "he threatened to hurt me daddy!" oh how funny.

If i were you I'd either move to somewhere with either 2 allocated parking spaces, a proper house, or, maybe, park somewhere else that's not going to cause problems.

If you are that precious about your car then park your car in the allocated bay and have your Mrs park her car somewhere else.
The most valuable car gets the space.
Ok, let's do this again so maybe you'll be quiet. Count 'em up...

1. You also got where I park wrong (another street? Even though I said in my OP "across the road". Not down the road, not the next road over. ACROSS the road. Would you like a dictionary?) and I'd already stated in another post that I don't seriously f*cking stand there looking at it all night. A little reading will go a long way for you.
2. He has his allocated parking, we have ours. We both have excess vehicles. He has no more right to that spot than I do.
3. I'm not giving you a Google Map link to where I live. Weirdos on the internet and all that.
4. I can assure you that I didn't say "He threatened to hurt me daddy". Apart from anything else my father isn't even a police officer. Nice condescension though. Very mature. Also, he threatened to hurt the car; not me. Another incorrect point for you.
5. We're not moving. Happened to like it here other than a ratty neighbour.
6. What is a "proper house"? You seem to have a problem with flats. What is your problem with flats?
7. I've already stated that I've decided to park a few houses down to avoid further conflict. But, we all know how you struggle with reading by this point.
8. Where is this assumption coming from that my car is more valuable? At no point have I said what my partner drives. She could have a f*ckin' Lambo for all you know.

Edited by CasuallyDressed on Monday 24th October 12:07


Edited by CasuallyDressed on Monday 24th October 12:07

CasuallyDressed

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Monday 24th October 2016
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xjay1337 said:
I'm sorry, you're angry I disagree with you? You shouldn't have posted up on PH! laugh

I don't think you deal with sarcasm very well.

I have no problem with flats. It's just easier for me to refer to a terraced, semi or detached property by saying "proper house" instead of "house" and having it confused with another flat.

I doubt your Mrs drives a Lambo. I would guess a Peugeot of some description. You probably have a 12 year old Saab or BMW.

You seem to be very sensitive hence why you calling the police came at no surprise to me.

I hope your car is OK after this ordeal.

I wonder how you would take to him parking outside your house, when your Son needs to park there?
You weren't very happy with some kid who got your contracted job back in Feb, same thing both have equal rights to the job and all that... smile
Ahh, post mining! The last resort when you're losing an argument. My condolences, but please try to stay on topic. So, let's do this one last time:

1. I'm not angry that you disagree with me. I'm ruffled because you keep posting inaccuracies.
2. I'm fine with sarcasm. You're not being sarcastic. You're failing to be funny I think?
3. In what world does someone say "See that house?" and another person say "Oh, you mean that flat? Sorry, I got confused because it's actually a terraced house so clearly you meant a flat"? I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here :-/
4. She doesn't drive a Peugeot of some description and I don't drive a 12 year old Saab or BMW. You're doing well here smile
5. I called the police because an incident occurred and I wished to report it. Nothing to do with being sensitive. If you makes you feel any better, it was a call made to the non-emergency line.
6. I would tell this hypothetical son that wishes to park outside of my hypothetical house to stop being a hypothetical baby and park somewhere else.