Civil Enforcement ltd.

[M11 MFP]

Received a £100 parking charge from this cheerful bunch last week. Overstay beyond a free parking period by 51 minutes.

Only real defence may be that the area was deserted after Christmas - One other car when I parked, none when I left.

Idiotic on my part, as I could have easily parked adjacent to the area being controlled by CEL for a well known fast food chain (no reciept).

Advice please. Pay the compassionate £60 discounted fee (10 days), or refer to POPLA, PePIPoo perhaps?

[M11 MFP]

Not sure there is much basis, other than the fact I didn't impede others from parking during overstay, as there were no other cars there. Not reading the signage is no defence (I assume it is was there). I anticipate a warden may not have given me a ticket as it was a bank holiday and the rest of the car park was free! (it was ANPR). I regard £100 as excessively punitive for a minor transgression, which didn't impede other customers or the business.

[M11 MFP]

Just checked. Nope, enforced 24hr 365 days a year via ANPR. In a small font about 12ft from the ground, presumably so the signs aren't removed easily.

[M11 MFP]

voyds9 said:

Genuine assessment of loses? Car park empty so what have they lost.

Exactly this, with an admission of error and acknowledgment of my failure to appreciate the enforcement on public holidays.

This worked before with Parking Eye, who waived a greater overstay than this, with a valid reciept from the store in question, and on a normal working day.

I don't have a receipt from the business concerned this time, but who does from anonburger 10 days later.

It's a works vehicle too, so they don't know the driver, but are keen to acquire this information judging by their threatening paragraph. Pretty sure I don't need to supply it in response to a private car parking companies invoice?

I'm aware this company fines (invoices) at the highest permissible level and is very litigious. They have recently been in court for fraudulently fishing money using legal jargon not valid in Scotland. Also for reissuing threatening PCNs over five years old in England, in anticipation new legal processes aiding their cause will milk significant cash from those who escaped justice in the early days of the private parking cash cow.

Edited by M11 MFP on Friday 13th January 18:08

[M11 MFP]

Boosted LS1 said:

Was it dark, was it raining, did you even notice any signage?

Daylight i'm afraid.

[M11 MFP]

Yea, I'll furnish them with a picture of Stevie Wonder.

[M11 MFP]

Red Devil said:

What new legal processes? Link to source please. PoFA 2012 is not retrospective, so keeper liability on anything prior to 01/10/2012 will fail.

You need to be aware that CEL's PCNs are non-compliant with PoFA 2012. Read this and compare with the PCN then you will see why.
Get yourself over to MSE and pepipoo, do your homework, and find out how to kick it into the long grass. PH is not the most suitable forum for this.

Thanks for the link to that and the advice. You're clearly well informed when it comes to these cases.