New car tax rules

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Mill Wheel

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A friend of a friend bought a SEAT brand new from a localish dealer in November 2015, and was told the VED would be £20 a year.
When her reminder arrived (which I haven't seen) it was for £130.

She has queried this with the DVLA via a phone call and told it was correct, but the dealer was adamant that it is an error... but she paid it anyway.

Regarding the model, all I know is that it is a Seat Leon 5 door fr 1.4

Now, our local paper has just published a guide here: http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/150341... and she thinks that she has been overcharged by the DVLA, given the information there.

a.) Where is the best source on the DVLA site to identify her model and the VED due, that is up to date, and she wishes to know:
b.) If her vehicle IS due to pay the higher tax, can she return it to the dealership, as the low tax and running cost was one of the reasons she bought it.

Edited by Mill Wheel on Thursday 19th January 11:44

Mill Wheel

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rampageturke said:
Find the quoted CO2 for the car and reference it against this table https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-f...

can't be much more to be done surely?
Apparently it is a Band C 114 gms/km, which the .gov site link GSALT provided says £30.

I took a look for ALL the FR models, and there is only one which is not either B or C group, and that is a G group, £145 a year.

I had already presumed that the dealer, selling the vehicle new in November 2015 would be certain of the group, so it looks like the DVLA have been in error.

I'll see if I can get a look at the renewal and the V5, and make sure the error isn't there.

Mill Wheel

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Slimbull said:
It's not unknown for DVLA. to make mistakes.
My VED is half of what it should be.
hehe
We had a Peugeot that was described as blue by the V5, but was Silver.
It wasn't even one of those very very pale metallic blues, and the manufacturers description was "Peugeot Silver".
My very first transport back in 1978 - a honda C50 "step through" was described as a moped, despite not having pedals of any description, and caused me no end of trouble when I had to produce my documents because I was riding with a passenger after I had passed my car test which at that time gave you Moped entitlement!

I have asked my friend to see if I can see the V5 or a copy.

Mill Wheel

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jith said:
They will also re-programme the ECU to keep the readings within the desired parameters; the VW history is how wicked they get in doing so, and they were the unfortunates that were caught; they are all at it.

J
I see that Fiat-Chrysler are the latest in the States to have been accused of using similar software to VW, along with Mazda.

Mill Wheel

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gareth_r said:
The definition of a moped was changed in 1977 from "50cc with pedals" to "50cc and max of 30mph". Your local plod were obviously not up to date. smile
The C50 would manage 40 mph - 45 if you were going downhill and kept your head down... so with hindsight they were right, but the DVLA had mislead me!
It was the restricted FS1Es and their like which had pedals that folded up that were classed as mopeds even though they looked (and were) motorcycles - and every month some motorcycle magazine or other would publish detail about how to overcome the restriction!

Mill Wheel

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The Mad Monk said:
But surely your friend won't have the V5, because it is the friend's friend who has the query.

BTW what is wrong with fiend's friends on this forum? Can't they pick up a keyboard and post the query themselves? Then the rest of us wouldn't have to keep asking questions of people who don't know the answers!
Yes, but I don't know her friend to speak to, so I can only ask my friend if I can see a copy or arrange to see the original.
Friends friend was resigned to paying the £130 until the local paper published the new rules, and it reminded her to worry over it again.
I can't see either of them posting on PH! They both hate reversing and driving at night!