Help with Yellow Box junction fine- Merton London

[surveyor_101]

Ok so council fine, my friend got. they have him fairly bang to rights he enters the box MTC KINGTSON ROAD j/w with Dorset road.

He enter after the lights changed and failed to judge the traffic que. He wasn't turning right.

Any help, seems a cash cow £130 (£65 in 14 days) for entering a box junction

£130 is more than FPN for speeding!

[surveyor_101]

Raygun said:

No not having it, it's a money making racket, after all these years all of a sudden getting caught in a box junction warrants a £110 fine, because like you know and I know there is a load of money to be made from it, it's not even worth debating it's so crystal clear.

£130 seems excessive, if it was £50 but that's more than a penalty for speeding,

It's opposite a tram cross with poor vision, someone has already said it's stop start.

He was stop start and it all stopped. He started reversing and a car came thundering up behind him.

We live in the southwest and travel to London on business as does he but not immediate plans to be there again soon.

[surveyor_101]

Anyone understand the de minimis rule in council PCNs? is it the offence did not occur due the markings or in this I believe despite having Tfl approval the box junction does not comply with TSRGD section on box junctions.

[surveyor_101]

People on pepipoo say he is bang to rights and can offer no advice other than to pay

[surveyor_101]

Hackney said:

A con? Being fined for committing an easily avoidable motoring offence is a con?
You'll be telling me next you're being fined for using your mobile phone and that's a con too because you were lured into it by a council stooge phoning you.

£130 for entering a YBL on a stop start section of road! That is more then the fine two months ago for mobile phone.

This isn't a standard box junctions et out TSRGD! Its a merton special that when they started fining folk they didn't even have TfL approval for!