Discussion
I will try and keep this brief. Basically I have started seeing a new lady, who works and lives in a boarding school. The relationship is going well (so far) and she wants me to start going to stay at her flat (in the school premises) at weekends. She says that for this I must be CRB checked by the school.
I am currently 32 years old. When aged 16 I was convicted of affray and possession of offensive weapon (1994) ... and given a fine and conditional discharge. Since then I don't have so much as a parking ticket on my record... totally clean...
How is this going to play out? If the school CRB me so I can attend the site and stay with her over night are they going to see chapter and verse about my record? Given that everyone is always trying to cover their own back sides in these situations there is a chance they might act and refuse me entry... which would essentially destroy this new relationship.
Any advice on the process and how it works welcome... I have read something about the 'step down' model, but heard that a court ruling last year meant the CRB no longer go by this.
I am currently 32 years old. When aged 16 I was convicted of affray and possession of offensive weapon (1994) ... and given a fine and conditional discharge. Since then I don't have so much as a parking ticket on my record... totally clean...
How is this going to play out? If the school CRB me so I can attend the site and stay with her over night are they going to see chapter and verse about my record? Given that everyone is always trying to cover their own back sides in these situations there is a chance they might act and refuse me entry... which would essentially destroy this new relationship.
Any advice on the process and how it works welcome... I have read something about the 'step down' model, but heard that a court ruling last year meant the CRB no longer go by this.
She knows... we have discussed it all on the phone this evening... the issue is the school..... they might be reasonable... see it was 16 years ago and the offences are nothing to do with sex etc etc... and just file the forms .... but they could ... if they want... be really difficult
There are surrounding issues... one being that she is currently out of favor with a member of the senior managers at present (work politics situation) ... the other being that this is a very very posh, exclusive and expensive school... they won't risk anything that might upset the apple cart.
I agree that if some common sense was used, they met me... looked into my life (company director, property owner, pays his taxes, honest hardworking and responsible, even has a clean driving licence ;-) then they would have no issues... but if it's processed purely on paper by someone trying to cover all bases it could be a bad result. Which would be grossly unfair, for a crime that took place 16 years ago as a minor. To have this relationship cut short as further punishment for my crimes as a child isn't justice.
I agree that if some common sense was used, they met me... looked into my life (company director, property owner, pays his taxes, honest hardworking and responsible, even has a clean driving licence ;-) then they would have no issues... but if it's processed purely on paper by someone trying to cover all bases it could be a bad result. Which would be grossly unfair, for a crime that took place 16 years ago as a minor. To have this relationship cut short as further punishment for my crimes as a child isn't justice.
Thanks for all the comments. I think the step down model has been torn up now... well thats what my investigations seem to have suggested today. It was used until last year though. It seemed to suggest that after certain periods of time the record would step down to a situation where the police would retain it, but only share it with the police, not outside bodies.
Now however it seems they will never step it down to the 'non sharing' status, so the CRB will have access to everything at all times.
I spoke to a good friend who recently applied for a job as a courier driver, and was going to be CRB checked for that. Which seems insane! Does every employer now feel they are exempt from the rehabilitation of offenders Act?
Now however it seems they will never step it down to the 'non sharing' status, so the CRB will have access to everything at all times.
I spoke to a good friend who recently applied for a job as a courier driver, and was going to be CRB checked for that. Which seems insane! Does every employer now feel they are exempt from the rehabilitation of offenders Act?
Well... if I am lucky.. they might only do me a basic check... given that I am not applying for a job there... and not asking them if I can live there... Ironically the site is National Trust... so any one of us could stroll onto the grounds if we wanted to! Assuming your NT membership is up to date of course ;-)
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