Newbie question - Different noses S3 SV?

Newbie question - Different noses S3 SV?

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Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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Hi everybody!

This is a Spaniard in love for Caterham Super 7 and looking to buy one soon! So very happy to find a nice forum like this... (and pardon my English)

One quick question: I know the S3 and SV chassis are different and, being 5 feet 9 inches and less than 180 pounds, I am more interested in the S3 than the SV (even if it only for touring, I may lower the floor); now, I am not sure if it is an optical effect due to the cameras, paint, accesories... but for me there are two different noses, being one wider than the other (SV wider?). I almost burnt Google servers looking for any clue in internet, but failed... Have the S3 and SV nosecones different dimensions?

If that is the case, I prefer the wider one, looks more "sporty" to me, but it maybe only due to the fact that all the superior models are made in SV chassis. Also I think in this forum most people prefer the S3 chassis.

Thanks for your support!

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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Thanks Dr Slotter!

Still looking for a frontal picture of both noses to compare... if anyone know of any :-)

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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Hi hufggfg! And thanks for your answer!!!

Of course it is a car to love, hehe... and with the prices of houses going up and up in Spain I'd rather "invest" my money in something really worthy ;-)

(And somebody told me these cars have a good residual in case I want (need) to sell it... ssshhh...)

Well, I'll take a detailed look at your post at home (blocked images in the office) and look at what you say, but meanwhile, could we say we can see an S3, an S3 and an SV in this picture?

http://78.138.119.49/userdata/1/19033/fIw4MFmF/dsc...


Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Wow! What a warm welcome :-)))

I had the opportunity to look at the pictures attached yesterday at home (no time to answer, sorry), and I have to say I am amused with your answers.

So yes, definitely it seems that the lights position has also something to do with the look, thank you very much for your answers and opinions.

To introduce myself a little, I already said I am Spanish, from South Spain (maybe a little dusty in the summer to ride a Caterham ;-)) but I am living in South France today. No future mayor investments/costs (like house/baby/etc...) in the near future, so why not a nice whim?

Then, I have contacted with Caterham Spain in Barcelona (not far away from here) and will try to set an appointment to test the car together with my fiance (no point in going for the Caterham without her approval, obviously). Maybe I will also try to contact the French distributors... but they are not less than 10% more expensive than in Spain without an obvious reason.

A new question, does "wide-track suspension" mean that distance between the front wheels in the S3 is shorter than in the SV? That would make also a point in the overall look, obviously.

It's a pity that S3 chassis do not come with the "low lights"...

(Thanks Mick, I'll see your picture when I get home...)

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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Thanks again everybody for all the answers!

Regarding the dealer in Barcelona, I sent an email last week, got no answer, called the telephone published on the web page and was answered :-) He told me that they were on holidays (phone call forwarded, good point) but would answer me as soon as they were back next week. Let's see what happens; I've read about problems in the past with this dealer, but to be honest they all were old posts (pre-2010, maybe).

Mick, do you know of any Spanish Caterham club? I've found a forum, but it seems dead... Was it very difficult to register the car in Spain?

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Well, OK, he didn't say he didn't want to be bothered, he said he would reply when back from holidays (this week); he looked busy, and I mentioned I could wait...

As I said, most of what I can read is bad interactions with him, but they are all old posts. Let's see if with the crisis he is more interested in selling or not. I'll keep you posted.

My big interest in buying this way is that I can have an important deduction on taxes if I buy in Spain. And of course, needless to say, the huge saving in bureaucracy I would have.

But for the moment I am just making some prospecting, to see what are the prices, the pros and cons in different countries and different ways. As I said, I am living in France at the moment, so I could get the advantage of driving a Spanish plate with my Spanish face around just like you did in Baleares :-)

Then, I also sent an email to Caterham France, just to check if I can try the Caterham here. But after that and looking at the prices I noticed that the difference between Spain and France is more or less the transport fee (around 3.000€); I cannot find any info on the CF web page as if this fee is included or not, so if it is, price would be more or less the same (except for my Spanish tax deduction, obviously).

Nevertheless, thank you very much for the information about the UK import possibility , it is one of the possibilities to consider, of course. And thank you for the rest of the info too.

But, first thing is to get the possibility to try one!!! And of course, my "Speed Limiter" (aka girlfriend) will have to try it also, there is no point in driving it alone... or it is... ;-)

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Caterham France 1 - Caterham Spain 0...

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Well, a commercial agent called me today from Caterham Spain :-) to tell me that the prices in the web page are not valid: taxes are higher in Spain since 1st September and Caterham is raising the prices (a lot) for year 2013 (as an order made today is expected to be delivered next year). I will have the new prices this week (hopefully).

I asked for a test with a Roadsport but they only have CSR right now, and according to the agent, reactions are totally different due to power and dimensions (something I already knew :-)). He affirms Sigma engine is better than Duratec? Well, I'll have to wait until CF contacts me again so I can see "current" prices and the possibility of a test.

Transport fee is around 750-1000€ depending on the market.

I shouldn't be looking at the parts in the Caterham UK web as they are not compatible with the EU car...??? Yeah, that's what he literally said. So I wonder if the options for a EU car are limited to the ones offered by the dealer...

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Veeeeeeeeery nice!!! Two different models from a front point of view. Thank you very much MBBlat, I will take a looong look a it at home.

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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And by the way, still awaiting for French and Spanish answer, mmm...

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Sunday 9th September 2012
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Ah, the basic 34K€ price for the Roadsport 120 in France includes everything (shipping, taxes...) except plates (around 300€).

I am waiting for a date for my first test. Now I am excited :-D

Benur

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66 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Got the answer from Spain, prices up around 10% (including 3% due to Spanish raise on taxes), car will be even a little more expensive that in France.

By the way, first test on a Caterham programmed for this Saturday. Now I am excited...