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Cheers Dave 
I always liked the look of your car when it was black and ally, but with the use your car gets, it was inevitable that one day you'd have to paint it, or get it re-skinned.
I'm thinking of using some Armourfend on some of the vulnerable spots. Not too sure how it will look on the polished all though.
But to be honest, the car probably wont clock many miles a year.
I always liked the look of your car when it was black and ally, but with the use your car gets, it was inevitable that one day you'd have to paint it, or get it re-skinned.I'm thinking of using some Armourfend on some of the vulnerable spots. Not too sure how it will look on the polished all though.
But to be honest, the car probably wont clock many miles a year.
It's both realy. 
A fellow called Geoff Moss made it for me.
I'm sure he'd make one for you. His out of date web site is here
http://www.mphmotorpanels.com/index.htm
Best to give him a call, as he's not very good at answering e-mails.
A really nice chap, but don't ecpect to rush a magician! He likes to have the car in the workshop, to make sure everything fits.
A fellow called Geoff Moss made it for me.I'm sure he'd make one for you. His out of date web site is here
http://www.mphmotorpanels.com/index.htm
Best to give him a call, as he's not very good at answering e-mails.
A really nice chap, but don't ecpect to rush a magician! He likes to have the car in the workshop, to make sure everything fits.
Edited by mickrick on Wednesday 30th December 17:30
Hi Dave, Yes, I'm black packing it. It's just the body panels, nosecone, and wings that are all ally.
I'm trying to go for a modern car with a classic twist, if you know what I mean?
I'll be using a bit of carbon too.
Sounds like a bit of a mish mash doesn't it! But I have it all in my head.
I have a roadsport cage in black, carbon dash, stack, black aero filler, screen is black, as you have noticed. I'll use carbon tillets too.
And as you've seen from BC, I'm after some wheels with the 4 spoke design similar to the Lotus 49, but will be splits, so again, a bit more black, and a classic theme.
I think it should come out looking O.K. I've always liked the Black/Ally combination.
Not everyones cup of tea though, I know.
I'm trying to go for a modern car with a classic twist, if you know what I mean?
I'll be using a bit of carbon too.
Sounds like a bit of a mish mash doesn't it! But I have it all in my head.
I have a roadsport cage in black, carbon dash, stack, black aero filler, screen is black, as you have noticed. I'll use carbon tillets too.
And as you've seen from BC, I'm after some wheels with the 4 spoke design similar to the Lotus 49, but will be splits, so again, a bit more black, and a classic theme.
I think it should come out looking O.K. I've always liked the Black/Ally combination.
Not everyones cup of tea though, I know.
Finaly got the tub finished today. I lost the use of the garage for a year, so the chassis has been sitting in a trailer for nearly a year.
I can start putting some things on it now.
Got the cage and screen back on.
I think the hardest part of the whole job was getting the linishing markes out, where the side skins are welded, at the corner of the cockpit sill/wheelarch, and over the shock absorber turrets.
I must have flatted these back 3 or 4 times, only to find the marks still visible when it was polished up.
I had to flat the whole tub back with 3m Microfine pads, to get the grain out, before polishing with the Cyclo polisher, and three grades of Nuvite.
Still a bit of grain it it if you can get it in the right light, but I'll probably give it another once over, once it's all together.
Next job, I think I'll get the holes marked up in the rear wings.
Cheers,
Mick.
I can start putting some things on it now.
Got the cage and screen back on.
I think the hardest part of the whole job was getting the linishing markes out, where the side skins are welded, at the corner of the cockpit sill/wheelarch, and over the shock absorber turrets.
I must have flatted these back 3 or 4 times, only to find the marks still visible when it was polished up.
I had to flat the whole tub back with 3m Microfine pads, to get the grain out, before polishing with the Cyclo polisher, and three grades of Nuvite.
Still a bit of grain it it if you can get it in the right light, but I'll probably give it another once over, once it's all together.
Next job, I think I'll get the holes marked up in the rear wings.
Cheers,
Mick.
Edited by mickrick on Wednesday 12th January 20:00
Gingerbread Man said:
mickrick said:
Gingerbread Man said:
You're going to go mad cleaning that.
Didn't you know?I already am!
If so, are the costs adding up or have you been able to get a good deal. I presume that they're more expensive than the carbon fibre equivalent?
Credit for the art must go to Geoff Moss at MPH Motor Panels.
I had the chassis stored in a container in U.K. for a year before I managed to get free of work commitments, (I'm a Yacht Skipper Based in Mallorca) to run it down to Geoff's workshop in Liskeard. He insisted on having the car, to make sure everything fit just so.
He had the car for 8 months, fitting it in between other work.
I then flew back to U.K. bought an old LWB Transit van, and drove it down to Mallorca, selling the van the day after arriving, to an ex pat, who had some stuff to take back!
Yes it's going to be an exspensive project, but it's a keeper. I'll never sell it now.
Imagine the work that whent into these!
Had a bit of a fettle in the garage this afternoon.
Marked out the holes in one of the rear wings, drilled them thinking "have I done this right" Measure a dozen times drill once!
It's not as if I can bog them up if I drill them wrong!
Then spent ages fileing out the large holes for the Watts link arms.
Had the thing on and off a dozen times before I got enough clearance for the forward arm to sit nice on the chassis boss without catching the flange of the wing.
Gave it a quick flat with the microfine pad, C, F7, and S grade on the Cyclo, before I fit the pipng tomorrow.
Looks like a Seven now. Almost.
Popped one side of my aero wishbones on too. (BGD have the other side while they make my brake stuff)
My calipers turned up at BGD last week, so they'll be starting on a 278mm floating disc setup, with alloy bells.
Here are the AP "Radi-Cal" calipers at 1.2kg.
AP don't do a road pad for these, so I'm having the pads made from a larger doner pad with a road compound.
TTFN,
Mick.
Marked out the holes in one of the rear wings, drilled them thinking "have I done this right" Measure a dozen times drill once!
It's not as if I can bog them up if I drill them wrong!
Then spent ages fileing out the large holes for the Watts link arms.
Had the thing on and off a dozen times before I got enough clearance for the forward arm to sit nice on the chassis boss without catching the flange of the wing.
Gave it a quick flat with the microfine pad, C, F7, and S grade on the Cyclo, before I fit the pipng tomorrow.
Looks like a Seven now. Almost.
Popped one side of my aero wishbones on too. (BGD have the other side while they make my brake stuff)
My calipers turned up at BGD last week, so they'll be starting on a 278mm floating disc setup, with alloy bells.
Here are the AP "Radi-Cal" calipers at 1.2kg.
AP don't do a road pad for these, so I'm having the pads made from a larger doner pad with a road compound.
TTFN,
Mick.
I think a Seven hits a brick wall at around 160 due to its housebrick aerodynamics. Not that I particularly want to do that in a coffin chaped car made out of tin foil!
Arial using the Hartley H1 in the new Atom V8. The 3.0 litre version.
It's got a nice flat torque curve, and is very drivable on road.
I think I'll be going for the 2.8 with a little bit of porting and quite mild cams.
Jack Frost of Holeshot Racing is building them using his own top ends.
He says I should get 420hp.
I heard he's recently built a twin turbo with 1000hp!
The Guys at Drenth are Brilliant! Stefan Olijvie is the Man.
Regards,
Mick.
Not that I particularly want to do that in a coffin chaped car made out of tin foil! Arial using the Hartley H1 in the new Atom V8. The 3.0 litre version.
It's got a nice flat torque curve, and is very drivable on road.
I think I'll be going for the 2.8 with a little bit of porting and quite mild cams.
Jack Frost of Holeshot Racing is building them using his own top ends.
He says I should get 420hp.
I heard he's recently built a twin turbo with 1000hp!
The Guys at Drenth are Brilliant! Stefan Olijvie is the Man.
Regards,
Mick.
Incorrigible, I was thinking of a nice bright silver paint. What do you think?
Mattmurdock, I need to leave some room for upgrades later!
Been at it again today. Got the other rear wing on. These SV's are wide innit!
Couldn't resist a play, and clamped the front wing on to see how it looked.
I'm wondering if I'll have to put the rubber bead around them for the IVA, as Geoff put a lovely rolled edge on them all the way around the inside. It's 3mm. I understand the IVA guidlines say 2.5mm radius?
Mattmurdock, I need to leave some room for upgrades later!
Been at it again today. Got the other rear wing on. These SV's are wide innit!
Couldn't resist a play, and clamped the front wing on to see how it looked.
I'm wondering if I'll have to put the rubber bead around them for the IVA, as Geoff put a lovely rolled edge on them all the way around the inside. It's 3mm. I understand the IVA guidlines say 2.5mm radius?
BertBert I have to get some 3M sound deadening material stuck under there, to stop the stones denting it from underneath. It moulds in nicely with a heat gun.
MadHatter7 I have ahem, wide shoulders! I found my S3 R300 a bit tight with two in the car, so I like the extra elbow room, bigger "boot" and extra fuel. SV is still lighter than a VX engined car. 
Incorrigible, not sure I follow you? The picture with Geoff holding the wing next to the car, it isn't attached.
I have to get some 3M sound deadening material stuck under there, to stop the stones denting it from underneath. It moulds in nicely with a heat gun.MadHatter7 I have ahem, wide shoulders!
I found my S3 R300 a bit tight with two in the car, so I like the extra elbow room, bigger "boot" and extra fuel. SV is still lighter than a VX engined car. Incorrigible, not sure I follow you? The picture with Geoff holding the wing next to the car, it isn't attached.
Actualy, it might be by 10mm, but if you could see it you have better eyes than me!
I measured it when I put it on, as I was told the CSR stays needed a fettle to fit, and so far they have bolted straight on.
I'm also told the CSR has the same uprights. So I haven't yet figured out why they aren't supposed to fit. (The nice people at Caterham said they wouldn't "Becuase of the different suspension, and wheel offsets")
I haven't fixed the wings untill I can get a wheel on, and make sure there's a nice even gap between the wing and tyre.
I may also have a word with Geoff about extending the wing around the rear of the tyre a bit more. They are an exact copy of the CSR wing, but now they're fitted I can see they're quite short at the rear and they'll throw up a lot of muck and stones.
He may have to make me another bonnet anyway, as I'll need a couple of bumps putting in to clear the H1 plenums, and the heater louvers are superfluos.
Plus the original bonnet is a crap fit. Don't know what they did when it was formed, but it curls up on the rolled edge of the curves around the scuttle, and the same at the front.
I also think will have to modify the stays anyway, as I need to bring the rim further inboard to reduce the king pin offset. I think I can some more, but I'll wait untill I have everything fitted up, and make sure the wheel and cycle wing will not foul anywhere.
I have found an added bonus to the CSR wing though. It's a great place to put your mug of tea while working on the car!
TTFN,
Mick.
I measured it when I put it on, as I was told the CSR stays needed a fettle to fit, and so far they have bolted straight on.
I'm also told the CSR has the same uprights. So I haven't yet figured out why they aren't supposed to fit. (The nice people at Caterham said they wouldn't "Becuase of the different suspension, and wheel offsets")
I haven't fixed the wings untill I can get a wheel on, and make sure there's a nice even gap between the wing and tyre.
I may also have a word with Geoff about extending the wing around the rear of the tyre a bit more. They are an exact copy of the CSR wing, but now they're fitted I can see they're quite short at the rear and they'll throw up a lot of muck and stones.
He may have to make me another bonnet anyway, as I'll need a couple of bumps putting in to clear the H1 plenums, and the heater louvers are superfluos.
Plus the original bonnet is a crap fit. Don't know what they did when it was formed, but it curls up on the rolled edge of the curves around the scuttle, and the same at the front.
I also think will have to modify the stays anyway, as I need to bring the rim further inboard to reduce the king pin offset. I think I can some more, but I'll wait untill I have everything fitted up, and make sure the wheel and cycle wing will not foul anywhere.
I have found an added bonus to the CSR wing though. It's a great place to put your mug of tea while working on the car!
TTFN,
Mick.
Hi KT,
I have considered Galicia, as my wife's from that way (Near Muros) and I find the Folks up there very ameniable.
As opposed to the Islands, where Folks sole purpose in life is to make it as difficult as possible for everyone else!
I also lived on the Costa, for about 4 years, Sabanillas, just down the road from Estepona!
I have considered Galicia, as my wife's from that way (Near Muros) and I find the Folks up there very ameniable.
As opposed to the Islands, where Folks sole purpose in life is to make it as difficult as possible for everyone else!
I also lived on the Costa, for about 4 years, Sabanillas, just down the road from Estepona!
Disc bells are done. The lightweight theme has been carried through on these.
The ridge is to give some rigity and prevent runout.
As you can see it's all just balanced together to show how it will look.
Discs are floating 277.6 x 18 and weigh 2.24kg.
Pads have to be machined next.
I'm happy!
The ridge is to give some rigity and prevent runout.
As you can see it's all just balanced together to show how it will look.
Discs are floating 277.6 x 18 and weigh 2.24kg.
Pads have to be machined next.
I'm happy!
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