Combo 1.3 CDTI Problems!
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good evening everyone, im after some advice about my dads combo 1.3 CDTI
its a 56 plate and really really struggles to start in the mornings, or when its been left for periods of time, takes a few turns of the key before it will catch, then stalls, then catches, stalls.
goes through this rigmerole about 4/5 times, then when it does catch, it idles at about 4/500 revs for about 10 seconds?
its really down on power before the turbo kicks in, you have to really rev it to make some power when pulling away.
it will stutter and the engine vibrates a fair bit and occasionaly it will really shudder as if its about to cut out and then emit a large cloud of black smoke!
has anyone heard of this before? we have fitted new glow plugs, new leakoff pipe between the injectors, and its had a new injector and seal on cylinder one, the new injector did fix it for about 20 miles, then it returned to its former poorly self
its also had the EGR unplugged.
any help will be much appreciated!
its a 56 plate and really really struggles to start in the mornings, or when its been left for periods of time, takes a few turns of the key before it will catch, then stalls, then catches, stalls.
goes through this rigmerole about 4/5 times, then when it does catch, it idles at about 4/500 revs for about 10 seconds?
its really down on power before the turbo kicks in, you have to really rev it to make some power when pulling away.
it will stutter and the engine vibrates a fair bit and occasionaly it will really shudder as if its about to cut out and then emit a large cloud of black smoke!
has anyone heard of this before? we have fitted new glow plugs, new leakoff pipe between the injectors, and its had a new injector and seal on cylinder one, the new injector did fix it for about 20 miles, then it returned to its former poorly self
its also had the EGR unplugged.
any help will be much appreciated!
thats fantastic advice! just what we needed to hear! 
he picked up a chain kit from CES last week, and a new oil filter/oil etc
we have spent the day today ripping it apart on the driveway, the oil filter was starting to go, and you could see the bits in the pickup for the timing chain!
the belt was looser than a loose thing on a loose day, and the tensioner had around 1/2mm extrusion left on it,
we fitted the new sprokets, chain, guides and tensioner and there was barely any movement in the tensioner, which goes to show jus how much the chain had streched!
all back together and although its running quieter, its still juddering and showing signs of the MAF so ive told him to pick one up on monday! should be all sorted by then!
thank you for your advice! i owe u a virtual pint (:
he picked up a chain kit from CES last week, and a new oil filter/oil etc
we have spent the day today ripping it apart on the driveway, the oil filter was starting to go, and you could see the bits in the pickup for the timing chain!
the belt was looser than a loose thing on a loose day, and the tensioner had around 1/2mm extrusion left on it,
we fitted the new sprokets, chain, guides and tensioner and there was barely any movement in the tensioner, which goes to show jus how much the chain had streched!
all back together and although its running quieter, its still juddering and showing signs of the MAF so ive told him to pick one up on monday! should be all sorted by then!
thank you for your advice! i owe u a virtual pint (:
haha top man!
he ended up ordering a new MAF from online, as ones from factors were 130+
i will double check the crank bolt when im next up there, i read somewhere it needed 210 torque, but i just tightend it to FT. so will be worth a re check! especially with all the mileage it does.
and yes, Fiat, what a joke, why vaux couldnt just use a vaux engine! i dont understand!
he ended up ordering a new MAF from online, as ones from factors were 130+
i will double check the crank bolt when im next up there, i read somewhere it needed 210 torque, but i just tightend it to FT. so will be worth a re check! especially with all the mileage it does.
and yes, Fiat, what a joke, why vaux couldnt just use a vaux engine! i dont understand!
hey, thanks for the indepth reply! u are useful to have around ( or at my fingertips :P)
jus taken it out for a run now, starts fine, straight of the key, idles slightly lower than normal for around 15 seconds, then returns to normal idle, just under 1k revs
drive off and pulls fine in 1st, then into 2nd, foot down, just as the turbo comes in it goes into limp mode! wont rev past 3k
engine off and back on, try again, this time booting it in 1st, pulled fine, then into 2nd, turbo comes in, engine light on for around 2 secs, then off but still pulling fine, change into 3rd, and not booting it, back into limp
disconnected the MAF. started fine, little pic of engine on constantly, and strangley ran absolutly fine, no limp, no stutter, jus boosting away happily
is this the MAF or am i missing something
with regards to the engine and timing, we used big allen keys to lock the cams, and a screwdriver to lock off the crank, all seemed well and fine, that in my mind is fine,ive a hunch its something else :/
jus taken it out for a run now, starts fine, straight of the key, idles slightly lower than normal for around 15 seconds, then returns to normal idle, just under 1k revs
drive off and pulls fine in 1st, then into 2nd, foot down, just as the turbo comes in it goes into limp mode! wont rev past 3k
engine off and back on, try again, this time booting it in 1st, pulled fine, then into 2nd, turbo comes in, engine light on for around 2 secs, then off but still pulling fine, change into 3rd, and not booting it, back into limp
disconnected the MAF. started fine, little pic of engine on constantly, and strangley ran absolutly fine, no limp, no stutter, jus boosting away happily
is this the MAF or am i missing something
with regards to the engine and timing, we used big allen keys to lock the cams, and a screwdriver to lock off the crank, all seemed well and fine, that in my mind is fine,ive a hunch its something else :/
pyrospb said:
creasede said:
anyone with any ideas
Hi Chris,Have you managed to solve the limp-mode problem? I have exactly the same problem.
Also, I have vibration/stuttering on low rpms... Can't go below 20 km/h on the 2nd gear...
Please help!
easy way to test, disconnect it, and if it dosent make a change, then its faulty, as if it was working it would make a difference, you see my logic?
we ended up changing the cam chain & tensioners, theres a common fault where u need to change the oil filter regularly, as it breaks down and blocks the oilways, starving the tensioners/chain of oil, and stretchhhhing it, thus causing it to go slack and break
see how u get on
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