Forza 4 - BTCC champ replica.
Discussion
Right.
I'm fairly sure this has been done before, but I've wanted to give it a try for a while, and I did want to run my own championship as well, so I thought I would give this a bash.
Going to be a very championship sort of inspired by the BTCC, as I grew up on and bloody loved the early 90's stuff. It's what got me into Motorsport.
Rules wise, I'm thinking of running a qualifying, and then a race of an as yet undecided distance. Damage off, but tyres and fuel on, so when you stop for your mandatory pit stop, you actually change tyres.
Regulations, something like a PI limit of maybe 550 for rwd and 560 for fwd, with 545 for 4wd. No drivetrain or engine swaps, no aero and you must run oz superturismo rims as they look bangin'.
I'm no curry becclestone
, I just want to run a good close champ, so any ideas/ input will be appreciated.
As it stands now:
RWD CARS 560PI, EVERYTHING ELSE 565
Doesnt have to be spot on, but not over.
No Adjustable aero.
Any tyres with Oz superturismo.
No engine/drivetrain swaps. I'd rather you kept stock aspiration too.
Anything else is pretty much fine.
I would prefer a race paint, BTCC replicas would be chuffing great but whatever you want really.
Not going to do points for fastest lap, as good as it would be it would be really difficult to do as someone could set a fast dirty lap because they are being drafted but then it wouldn't count and so on. You will still get a point for leading a full lap.
One pit stop at least Can make as many as you want but has to be before the last lap.
Damage is limited but there is no aero to ruin your race when it falls off.
ABS will be allowed, but TCS & STM will be off
Races will be around 25/30 minutes, however many laps are needed for that.
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I'm fairly sure this has been done before, but I've wanted to give it a try for a while, and I did want to run my own championship as well, so I thought I would give this a bash.
Going to be a very championship sort of inspired by the BTCC, as I grew up on and bloody loved the early 90's stuff. It's what got me into Motorsport.
Rules wise, I'm thinking of running a qualifying, and then a race of an as yet undecided distance. Damage off, but tyres and fuel on, so when you stop for your mandatory pit stop, you actually change tyres.
Regulations, something like a PI limit of maybe 550 for rwd and 560 for fwd, with 545 for 4wd. No drivetrain or engine swaps, no aero and you must run oz superturismo rims as they look bangin'.
I'm no curry becclestone
, I just want to run a good close champ, so any ideas/ input will be appreciated.As it stands now:
RWD CARS 560PI, EVERYTHING ELSE 565
Doesnt have to be spot on, but not over.
No Adjustable aero.
Any tyres with Oz superturismo.
No engine/drivetrain swaps. I'd rather you kept stock aspiration too.
Anything else is pretty much fine.
I would prefer a race paint, BTCC replicas would be chuffing great but whatever you want really.
Not going to do points for fastest lap, as good as it would be it would be really difficult to do as someone could set a fast dirty lap because they are being drafted but then it wouldn't count and so on. You will still get a point for leading a full lap.
One pit stop at least Can make as many as you want but has to be before the last lap.
Damage is limited but there is no aero to ruin your race when it falls off.
ABS will be allowed, but TCS & STM will be off
Races will be around 25/30 minutes, however many laps are needed for that.
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Edited by Williams99 on Thursday 12th July 17:45
totlxtc said:
You will need to run damage on in order to change tyres rather than just driving through. Also try a go with Drag tyres. They wear quicker and add an element of strategy to the race as you have to be careful with them. No spinning the wheels up madly!
I see, cheers. That still works with limited damage, not just full? And drag tyres could be a very good idea indeed, should introduce some wear and whe you pit will have more of an impact.Thanks very much.
Chunkychucky said:
I'm in, will be driving something sporting a BMW badge.. And another +1 for no Forza adjustable aero
ETA: Williams how old are you? Early 90s BTCC is my bread and butter stuff too, one of my heroes is Steve Soper for the way he commanded his 318is in 1992, awesome driving...
I'm 19 born in late 1992, but when growing up my dad bought me every season review from 1990 onwards and I watched them all the time. I would have to say my personal favourite is Jon Cleland. His "attitude" was brilliant, and he only lived down the road from my grandparents! Something I only found out a few years ago.ETA: Williams how old are you? Early 90s BTCC is my bread and butter stuff too, one of my heroes is Steve Soper for the way he commanded his 318is in 1992, awesome driving...
Edited by Chunkychucky on Friday 22 June 15:44
I feel the series has a lot to explain for me wanting some crappy old volvo s40, or a primera, even a laguna! Or an accord....
Anyone remember the two Toyotas( I think ) taking each other off at oulton?
Oh, and just for info, my GT is Echo Cobra. Anyone add me if you want in on this.
Edited by Williams99 on Friday 22 June 16:02
Edited by Williams99 on Friday 22 June 16:04
Absolutely no final rules yet. Thats what this thread is for. I'll update/start a new on when we've finalised what we want.
As for PI for AWD cars, they were the heaviest penalised back in the day, Biela and Bintcliffe's Audi had a bigger weight to carry. I did forget about the fact they are over PIed though. It was the other way in FM3. Maybe they should be the same as the RWD cars then?
As for PI for AWD cars, they were the heaviest penalised back in the day, Biela and Bintcliffe's Audi had a bigger weight to carry. I did forget about the fact they are over PIed though. It was the other way in FM3. Maybe they should be the same as the RWD cars then?
mfnick said:
Could I join in on this please?
GT: MF Nick
Car - Integra for me please. Are you using the DC2 or DC5?
Of course.GT: MF Nick
Car - Integra for me please. Are you using the DC2 or DC5?
Either mate, fairly sure they have both been used at some point in the btcc.
If someone that isn't on an iPad can update the table from earlier that would be jubblies.
Coughjaycough.
Alright guys, been doing some testing and I think I'm getting there.
As it stands now:
AWD PI up to 555
FWD PI up to 550
RWD PI up to 535
No Adjustable aero.
Standard size drag tyres with Oz superturismo.
No engine/drivetrain swaps. I'd rather you kept stock aspiration too.
Anything else is pretty much fine. I think lower weight is going to be key as it will be easier on the tyres.
I would prefer a race paint, BTCC replicas would be chuffing great but whatever you want really.
I've tried a few cars in all of these, and they all seem to be within 1 to 1.5 seconds of each other round mugello full. For reference I am doing about 2.07.5s without any setting up.
Not going to do points for fastest lap, as good as it would be it would be really difficult to do as someone MIT set a fast dirty lap because they are being drafted but then it wouldn't count and so on. You will still get a point for leading a full lap.
One pit stop at least. Can make as many as you want but has to be before the last lap.
Damage is full, but there is no aero to ruin your race when it falls off.
ABS will be allowed, but TCS & STM will be off, to make you look after the tyres.
Races will be around 25/30 minutes, however many laps are needed for that.
Thoughts?
As it stands now:
AWD PI up to 555
FWD PI up to 550
RWD PI up to 535
No Adjustable aero.
Standard size drag tyres with Oz superturismo.
No engine/drivetrain swaps. I'd rather you kept stock aspiration too.
Anything else is pretty much fine. I think lower weight is going to be key as it will be easier on the tyres.
I would prefer a race paint, BTCC replicas would be chuffing great but whatever you want really.
I've tried a few cars in all of these, and they all seem to be within 1 to 1.5 seconds of each other round mugello full. For reference I am doing about 2.07.5s without any setting up.
Not going to do points for fastest lap, as good as it would be it would be really difficult to do as someone MIT set a fast dirty lap because they are being drafted but then it wouldn't count and so on. You will still get a point for leading a full lap.
One pit stop at least. Can make as many as you want but has to be before the last lap.
Damage is full, but there is no aero to ruin your race when it falls off.
ABS will be allowed, but TCS & STM will be off, to make you look after the tyres.
Races will be around 25/30 minutes, however many laps are needed for that.
Thoughts?
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