PH Forza 5 BTCC championship
Discussion
Hi all, finally got round to coming up what I hope will be an enjoyable series for racers of all levels.
Set below are my proposals for the championship but I'm open to making minor changes. For those of you who don't know me i ran regular race nights and several full damage drag tyre races in FM4 with great success.
The series will run over 6 nights during which there will be a two week break due to my shift pattern.
Each race night will comprise of a 3 lap qualifying session, a 35-40min race with pitstops then a reverse grid 20min sprint race on a smaller layout of the same track (where possible). Points will be awarded for both races.
Regulations- these follow BTCC NGTC rules where possible.
Front wheel drive
Tuned to a maximum of B600- minimum weight 2600lbs
Engine must be 2.0litre turbo-maximum power 350bhp
Race Tyres maximum width 245
Race brakes
Race cage
Forza aero front and rear
Race transmission-gears set for 160mph MAX
Cars must be painted with a BTCC style paint
The cars-not all the cars listed below have featured in the BTCC but to prevent it from becoming practically a one-make series I've included a couple cars that fit within the spirit of the championship and rules.
Acura RSX
Ford Focus ST 2013
Honda Civic Type R 2007
Honda Civic Type R 2004
Kie Cee'd-with 2.0VVTi engine swap
Renault Megane RS250
Vauxhall Astra VXR
Not a huge list but enough to run a series with.
If you're interested please post your name and GT below along with when you're available!
Cheers
Homer
Set below are my proposals for the championship but I'm open to making minor changes. For those of you who don't know me i ran regular race nights and several full damage drag tyre races in FM4 with great success.
The series will run over 6 nights during which there will be a two week break due to my shift pattern.
Each race night will comprise of a 3 lap qualifying session, a 35-40min race with pitstops then a reverse grid 20min sprint race on a smaller layout of the same track (where possible). Points will be awarded for both races.
Regulations- these follow BTCC NGTC rules where possible.
Front wheel drive
Tuned to a maximum of B600- minimum weight 2600lbs
Engine must be 2.0litre turbo-maximum power 350bhp
Race Tyres maximum width 245
Race brakes
Race cage
Forza aero front and rear
Race transmission-gears set for 160mph MAX
Cars must be painted with a BTCC style paint
The cars-not all the cars listed below have featured in the BTCC but to prevent it from becoming practically a one-make series I've included a couple cars that fit within the spirit of the championship and rules.
Acura RSX
Ford Focus ST 2013
Honda Civic Type R 2007
Honda Civic Type R 2004
Kie Cee'd-with 2.0VVTi engine swap
Renault Megane RS250
Vauxhall Astra VXR
Not a huge list but enough to run a series with.
If you're interested please post your name and GT below along with when you're available!
Cheers
Homer
| PH name | GAMERTAG | Day and time |
| greatcornholio | EVILHOMER40 | Most days |
Edited by GreatCornholio on Tuesday 1st April 16:14
Edited by GreatCornholio on Tuesday 1st April 17:02
ajprice said:
I built some cars yesterday, this might be just me being useless, but a Kia Ceed can't be B600 within the rules, mine is 350bhp and as near as I can get it to 2600lb, with upgraded everything, and its B580 and a bit. Also, is that a final list of cars or can we try others, the free DLC Civic Si and the Alfa Giuiletta seem to fit the rules.
Well spotted! I've amended the rules to allow UP TO B600 from now instead. I managed to get mine to B594 within the regs and tbh its as competitive as the rest without that 6 PI. If you want the build I'll post it.I don't have the DLC for the Alfa but as long as the engine is turbo 2.0 after tuning I think its worthy of inclusion as its 4 door and the sort of car you'd expect to see in the BTCC.
I'm not gonna allow the Honda Civic Is as there are enough Honda based cars in the list already!
ajprice said:
GreatCornholio said:
I don't have the DLC for the Alfa but as long as the engine is turbo 2.0 after tuning I think its worthy of inclusion as its 4 door and the sort of car you'd expect to see in the BTCC.
Forgot it was paid DLC, I don't have it either 
Edit: Also, the not DLC Integra is a 1.8, the displacement increase mod is 1.9 or 2.1 litre. So I take it the 1.9 upgrade is ok but not the 2.1?
Edited by ajprice on Tuesday 1st April 16:51
After testing umpteen cars last night I'm convinced the regs will bring the cars quite close together so with that in mind I'm open to suggestions for other cars but stick to the front drive 2.0 formula please.
II'm disappointed that the golf is 4wd so maybe we could have the Scirocco R instead?
Ideas???
II'm disappointed that the golf is 4wd so maybe we could have the Scirocco R instead?
Ideas???
Edited by GreatCornholio on Wednesday 2nd April 11:32
Bloody hell! I've opened up Pandora's box
Thanks for the input guys, particularly Dan cos that's a lot of ideas in one post
The C class idea was to be the next one and I was going to run that as an open series for ANY car in the style of Britcar ( I think that's what its called).
Honestly, I really don't know what to do now???
And yes, the Astra is a steaming pile of poo!
Thanks for the input guys, particularly Dan cos that's a lot of ideas in one post
The C class idea was to be the next one and I was going to run that as an open series for ANY car in the style of Britcar ( I think that's what its called).
Honestly, I really don't know what to do now???
And yes, the Astra is a steaming pile of poo!
Spent more time testing cars today with a couple of mates. The regs are keeping the cars close enough for me to base my choice of car on which one sounds the best!
Basically, B600 stays along with the other regs. This is the first attempt at a series so we'll learn for the next one (fingers crossed there is one).
One thing that came out from testing today was the possibility of someone running away with the series so I want to know what you guys would think to applying a horsepower reduction based on results from the previous race or current championship placing. I took part in a Mini championship in FM4 that did this and it worked really well. I say that having been on the receiving end of the penalties on a few occasions
Basically, B600 stays along with the other regs. This is the first attempt at a series so we'll learn for the next one (fingers crossed there is one).
One thing that came out from testing today was the possibility of someone running away with the series so I want to know what you guys would think to applying a horsepower reduction based on results from the previous race or current championship placing. I took part in a Mini championship in FM4 that did this and it worked really well. I say that having been on the receiving end of the penalties on a few occasions
TheVole said:
Out of interest, why the FWD only rule? The BTCC has a number of RWD cars.
If it's to do with how much easier it is to put power down in RWD, how about two classes; 350bhp maximum power for FWD, and say 300 or 325 for RWD?
I think that might mix it all up a bit.
To be honest I don't want things mixed up too much. The idea with the rules is to keep the cars as close as possible and it really works, tune some of the cars and you'll see what I mean.If it's to do with how much easier it is to put power down in RWD, how about two classes; 350bhp maximum power for FWD, and say 300 or 325 for RWD?
I think that might mix it all up a bit.
In FM4 I ran a drag tyre endurance race with everyone using the same car and tune (Seat Leon SC) and it was brilliant. Racing throughout the field from the first lap to the last!
Trust me, this formula will work
P I Staker said:
Has anyone got a laptime for a circuit that I can compare with to see if I'm getting close with this car/my driving?
Also I'm terrible at painting so please don't expect a cool replica from me like you guys are doing.
Silverstone International and I can run a 1:12.200 in my Megane, I'm expecting to run midfield. Send me a friend request then you can have a look to check Also I'm terrible at painting so please don't expect a cool replica from me like you guys are doing.
. GT EVILHOMER40P I Staker said:
GreatCornholio said:
P I Staker said:
Has anyone got a laptime for a circuit that I can compare with to see if I'm getting close with this car/my driving?
Also I'm terrible at painting so please don't expect a cool replica from me like you guys are doing.
Silverstone International and I can run a 1:12.200 in my Megane, I'm expecting to run midfield. Send me a friend request then you can have a look to check Also I'm terrible at painting so please don't expect a cool replica from me like you guys are doing.
. GT EVILHOMER40Shall do.
The test session for tonight will be at 9pm now! Please let me know if you want to join in as we really need 5 or 6 people to make it worthwhile
Also, I have rather embarrassingly shared a couple of illegal tunes. The Civic 2007 doesn't have a roll cage and the Renault Megane is 2,600lbs exactly and the lobby can only be set to >2,600lbs so the tune needs to be increased to 2,601lbs. Sorry
Also, I have rather embarrassingly shared a couple of illegal tunes. The Civic 2007 doesn't have a roll cage and the Renault Megane is 2,600lbs exactly and the lobby can only be set to >2,600lbs so the tune needs to be increased to 2,601lbs. Sorry
| PH name | GAMERTAG | Day and time |
| greatcornholio | EVILHOMER40 | Most days |
| idlewillo | IdleWillo | whenever |
| ajprice | Adrian Price | Any evening except Thursdays |
| LiamB | iAmChineseAlan | Any evening after 7 |
| John S4x4 | oO John S4x4 Oo | Any evening after 9pm |
| P I Staker | MadWiIt | Any evening |
| TheVole | Mattyvole | |
| Totlxtc | totlxtc | |
| Badabing | Baron Greenback | |
| Exton | oo 3x oo | anytime after 9pm |
This is the updated list, 10 so far and one of my longtime Forza friends who has taken part in many of my race nights and will be joining PH to take part makes 11.
More would be better but 11 is enough!
I'm tempted to make this a Saturday series but I know some of you actually have lives
totlxtc said:
KIA
Build
Engine swap to 2.0 VVT
Turbo conversion
Sport valves
Race Intercooler
Race oil
All race handling
Race clutch
Sport Trans
Race diff
Race tyres
245 front and rear
Cetlinger Type RE
20 inch front and rear
Aero front and rear
Settings
Tyres 28.5 front and rear
Gearing 4.00 (159.99mph)
Camber -2.5f -1.9r
Toe 0.0f 0.0r
Caster 7.0
Anti roll 37f 4r
Springs 782.4f 440.5r
Ride height 5.6f 5.9r
Rebound 10.5 front and rear
Bump 1.0 front and rear
Aero 100f 0r
Brake 53% 112%
Diff 100f 6r
Needs to be race transmission mate.Build
Engine swap to 2.0 VVT
Turbo conversion
Sport valves
Race Intercooler
Race oil
All race handling
Race clutch
Sport Trans
Race diff
Race tyres
245 front and rear
Cetlinger Type RE
20 inch front and rear
Aero front and rear
Settings
Tyres 28.5 front and rear
Gearing 4.00 (159.99mph)
Camber -2.5f -1.9r
Toe 0.0f 0.0r
Caster 7.0
Anti roll 37f 4r
Springs 782.4f 440.5r
Ride height 5.6f 5.9r
Rebound 10.5 front and rear
Bump 1.0 front and rear
Aero 100f 0r
Brake 53% 112%
Diff 100f 6r
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