Whaaaaaaat ... Battlefield 4

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I've been playing shooting games since the dawn of time.

I can turn on COD and top tables without much of an issue. But battlefield 4? WTF

I am getting hammered. I play a game and can regularly not get a single kill. I've had the game since it came out but only learnt about battlepacks yesterday. I'm level 8 but turn it off because it is so frustrating. What am I doing wrong?

I tried hiding and I tried run and gunning. Nothing works.

Can someone add me ... scott m 87

Just so I can follow you around.

Also is it worth buying the map packs? I appear to have 10 out of the 50 million available.

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Squirrelofwoe said:

sc0tt said:

I've been playing shooting games since the dawn of time.

I can turn on COD and top tables without much of an issue. But battlefield 4? WTF

I am getting hammered. I play a game and can regularly not get a single kill. I've had the game since it came out but only learnt about battlepacks yesterday. I'm level 8 but turn it off because it is so frustrating. What am I doing wrong?

I tried hiding and I tried run and gunning. Nothing works.

Can someone add me ... scott m 87

Just so I can follow you around.

Also is it worth buying the map packs? I appear to have 10 out of the 50 million available.

Very different game to COD (or at least the last versions of COD I played)- running & gunning focusing just on yourself is likely to see a lot of the re-spawn screen. I found the following 3 bits of advice incredibly useful:

1) Get in a squad- even if you don't know the people in it, as long as at least 2 of them look like they are working together (easy to to identify from when observing from the squad spawn menu), keep spawning on one of them them and stick with them. Help them out dropping ammo or medpacks, plus reviving where safe to do so and they will usually respond likewise. It doesn't matter if you aren't on comms with them, few people will mind having a stranger in their squad who is doing useful stuff!

The benefit of this is you will often be able to engage enemies who are engaging other members of your squad- you can then kill those enemies (while not being shot) and then revive any casualties in your squad. Or if you are the one taken down, you will have a higher chance of being revived by your other squad members. Anytime you can engage with a numerical advantage you increase the odds of winning and (providing at least one member is a medic) surviving- it only needs one squad member with de-fibs to survive and get the entire squad back on its feet again.

2) Play the objective, rather than worry about individual kills/deaths. It can feel an odd concept particularly coming from COD, but there are so many other ways to score points (which will in turn unlock loads of useful kit etc) and help your team win. It is a far more team-focused game than COD, so keep this in mind. Hence why you can see people with appalling kill/death ratios topping the scoreboard at the end of a round.

What you will find however, is that as you stop focusing on your own k/d performance you will get more in tune with the game mechanics and the maps and your own performance will naturally increase as a result. Trying to improve focusing solely on k/d ratios however is a hiding to nothing in BF4.

3) Learn to love the minimap! The minimap really is king, check it constantly. Always be on the lookout for the position of enemy markers on the minimap and plan/adjust your progress accordingly. The easiest way to win a fire-fight with someone is to be the one who shoots first- and the easiest way to ensure this happens is to use the minimap to make sure you get the drop on them.

It also helps you avoid walking into ambushes, avoiding the common 'meat-grinder' areas on certain maps that will see you killed my grenade/machine-gun fire spam, and lets you outflank the opposition. Little is more satisfying than getting round the back of half the enemy team...

Also be aware of your own mini-map presence. I personally use suppressors on every weapon that will take them- purely because it prevents you showing up on the map when you open fire, this more than offsets the range drop in my opinion. It doesn't mean playing the game with a stealth mind-set, but keeping yourself off the minimap will help enormously.
So to sum up: scout, and try not to be scouted!

There are a million and one other things to consider, but for me they are the 3 biggest things to focus on when starting out. I am not the greatest player by any stretch, but concentrating on the above improved my game ten-fold, and I can usually finish a round nearer the correct end of the scoreboard!

All that being said, I have not played for a few months and haven't played regularly for nearly a year so if DICE have since released new patches that have entirely changed the mechanics of the game then feel free to disregard any of the above!

Wow thanks for the response buddy.

I have only plpayed rush and "armed" a station yesterday and got 400 points.

It does seem kills play a small part of this.

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chuntington101 said:

I went through the exact same thing about 15 months ago. its a totally different game and you CANT play it like COD!

Try holding back and supporting you team until you get used to the maps and the way it plays a little.

By the way what platform are you on? its much better if you can get on with some other PHs and get used to shouting to each other.

I'm on an xbox one

gt: scott m 87

Let me know if anyone fancies a game later

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Hoofy said:

Stick to one TDM map. Live it, dream it, keep playing it until you're at the top of the board.

I love the Battlefield series and hardly touch rival games.

Love working as a team, too.

I've found a conquest server that only plays a single map lasting an hour long. Will keep at this for a while.

Seemed to do ok in the vehicles downing some air support but flying a jet appears to be a waste of time.

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TonyTony said:

I converted alot of people who play cod and first hated BF4 into hating cod and liking BF4.

It's just the way you play, be more tactical and don't stand somewhere where they can just spawn behind you.

Also remember they can spot you and everybody on the team can see you on the minimap and on the game screen.

I'm on XBox as well - Tonezz. Usually a party full of people playing BF4 so you can get some training haha

I'll be on tonight.

Anyone else?

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Progress update.

I have been playing conquest on Golmud railway. Playing for the objective seems to work and I can now be found regularly in the top 5.

Having a much better time playing the game and ranked up from level 4 to 16 over the weekend just on this map.

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Not Ideal said:

Good work. You enjoying it ?

Yes it is a brilliant game.

I have been playing as an engineer and utilising a lot of the land vehicles. I seem pretty good in a tank being a gunner and managed to hop out and repair etc.

My KD ration is still terrible but not particuarly frustrating as I am still racking up points. I also worked out the Boosts and have around 5 200x boosts etc enabling me to rank up.

Got hold of my headset yesterday which should bring some more fun.

The missus thinks I am terribly sad

I think I am going to buy Second assault.