THE Forza 6 Classic Touring Cars Championship

[kowalski655]

OK,we are go for the PH Classic Touring Cars Championship

CARS
Choose from the following list

Real car 61-75	Forza car	class	PI
Mini 61-	Mini	E	233
Cortina 63-	Lotus Cortina	E	256
Mustang 65-	Mustang 65	D	325
Escort Mk 1	F&F Escort	C	485
Fiat 600 69-	Old 500	E	108
BMW 2002 69-	73 BMW 2002 Turbo	E	300
Camaro Z28 69-	70 Camaro Z28	D	344
Mustang Boss 302 70-	Mustang 302 Boss	D	333
Capri 72-	Capri	E	285
Mazda RX3 73-	Mazda RX3	E	239
Toyota Celica GT 72-	74 Celica	E	235
911 69-	DLC 1982 911	C	449
Lancia Fulvia	Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye 1.6 HF	E	300
Alfa 1600 GTA 65-	Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale	E	272
Volvo Amazon	Volvo Amazon	E

TUNES/PAINTS
Any tune allowed,public or your own(although you have to make your tune available to all racers),up to a max of C class. All tuning options allowed,except for drive train swaps.Custom paint with your race number

FORMAT
Tuesday nights, lobby opens at 9pm when there will be a (approx) 6-8 min practice session followed by a sprint race (approx 15min) and a main race approx (approx 45min),random grid order.

TRACKS & DATES

Track	Date	Sprint laps	Full laps
Brands Hatch Full	5th July	9	28
Hockenheim Short	12th July	12	35
Le Mans Bugatti	19th July	8	22
Silverstone International	26th July	11	34
Nurburgring GP	2nd August	5	20
Brands Hatch Indy	9th August	15	45
Monza Full ALT	16th August	8	25
Silverstone GP	23th August	6	18
Spa	30th August	5	15
Le Mans Classic(Enduro finale)	6th September	n/a	12

Pit stops optional for sprint races,minimum of 2 for full races.
All aids allowed,damage & collisions on

POINTS
12 for a win then 11,10,9, etc

Edited by kowalski655 on Wednesday 22 June 12:43

[kowalski655]

Now that Idlewillo's brilliant Aussie V8 championship is drawing to a close, time to look at a replacement series, to carry on the fun.


I made a suggestion of some classic British Saloon Car Championship style racing from the 60's & 70's that seemed well received, so perhaps we could try this.Ive started this thread to gauge reactions & interest,put up my initial ideas and canvas any other suggestions. And then to set the details & do the damn thing!

So,as I posted in the other thread,using details from these wiki pages,'61 onwards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_British_Saloon_...
and also from John S4x4's excellent link
http://touringcarracing.net/Pages/cars.html

So the suggested car list looks like this,BSCC plus a few from Europe

Real car 61-75	Forza car	class	PI
Mini 61-	Mini	E	233
Cortina 63-	Lotus Cortina	E	256
Mustang 65-	Mustang 65	D	325
Escort Mk 1	F&F Escort	C	485
Fiat 600 69-	Old 500	E	108
BMW 2002 69-	73 BMW 2002 Turbo	E	300
Camaro Z28 69-	70 Camaro Z28	D	344
Mustang Boss 302 70-	Mustang 302 Boss	D	333
Capri 72-	Capri	E	285
Mazda RX3 73-	Mazda RX3	E	239
Toyota Celica GT 72-	74 Celica	E	235
911 69-	DLC 1982 911	C	449
Lancia Fulvia	Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye 1.6 HF	E	300
Alfa 1600 GTA 65-	Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale	E	272
Volvo Amazon	Volvo Amazon	E

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Any more car suggestions? Such a shame we dont have a Ford Galaxie,Hillman Imp,Merc 300, or the Mk II Jag!

Tuning allowed,your own or community,up to a max of C class.(Cars in game from Group 5 like the Zakspeed Capri are just too powerful as S class compared to the others.)

Custom paint with your race number, all aids will be allowed if needed, damage and collision will be on.

Track suggestions:
Brands full,Brands Indy,Silverstone full,Silverstone club,Spa,Le Mans Bugatti,Nurburgring GP,Hockenheim short,Monza full Alt,finale at Le Mans Old Mulsanne Circuit

I personally may have a problem actually doing the hosting as I have a terribly slow internet (also a wife who doesnt like to give up the telly for a "kid's game"!)so I dont know if anyone can do that

Tuesday still best?

So what do we think?

Sign up here & any comments/suggestions/insults welcome

PH name	Gamertag	Race no	Car	Man
kowalski655	kowalski655	00	Mini Cooper	Mini

Edited by kowalski655 on Wednesday 25th May 21:35

[kowalski655]

Did the 69 Camaro and the Corolla race. I may well have missed them on the wiki pages

AFAIAC you should be able to have any parts tune you want,perhaps with the exception of drivetrains swaps. Up to max PI of C class.

My go to test track is Brands Indy.

May be a good idea to rotate cars,but what counts as a fast car? eg I'm faster in a grip tune than a speed tune of the same car usually,regardless of track.
Maybe a PI handicap for the top 3 finishers from previous round,not sure how much it should be though, I suspect making them race D class may be a bit much . but then again...

[kowalski655]

AndyD360 said:

Sounds good - will likely be in something American.

If people are using community tunes you can't drop PI as the tune is locked - is there any way to hold particular cars on the grid for a set time so the top 3 start the following race 5/10/20 seconds behind the pack?

I know its there in the "new car vs older versions" races in the game but doubt its an option for lobbies. Would probably have to be an honour system

[kowalski655]

I think that was a later rally car,& its A class anyway IIRC
No MGB in the game anymore,there was in FM4

Added the Amazon as it raced down under in NZ

Edited by kowalski655 on Wednesday 25th May 21:37

[kowalski655]

We could consider limits,depends on what people may want to race

So far we have,confirmed or interested:

PH name	Gamertag	Race no	Car	Manuf.
kowalski655	kowalski655	00	70 Camaro	Chevy
chunkychucky	forzaracing69	69	Lotus Cortina	Ford
FIREBIRDC9	FIREBIRDC9	9	Lotus Cortina	Ford
John S4x4	John S4x4
idlewillo	idlewillo
Andy D360	Andy D360
Milton92	DauntingBeef08
Raddy	Raddy
Bailey93
shnev91	shnev0o0	12

Please feel free to complete or add a name

On the question of hosting,I think getting dropped from last nights lobby,and the fact that it has taken me half an hour to load this pot,means my stty rural scottish internet is just not up for the job....so,any volunteers?Am happy to do all the admin,but I dont want to have a race ruined by being dropped half way through thanks to BTs 2-cans-and-a-piece-of-string internet

[kowalski655]

Sounds good,Tuesdays was a good day for most.

As to the Cortina issue,I really dont want to limit any one's tunes,aero etc,so I would say that IF you use Cortina on 1 race night(either race as I would want 1 short & 1 longer race) then you cant use it for the next TWO race nights

With 10 tracks in teh OP(will that be enough?) that means you get to use it a MAX of 4 times if you make every race night

[kowalski655]

Good start to this from me...can't even get on!!!
Will keep trying...scratch that,now on. Anyone about?

Edited by kowalski655 on Tuesday 31st May 21:42

[kowalski655]

OK,looks like we have a lot of interest,and the Cortina isnt all powerful

I think it was clear from trying to race the other night,and the fact that Steam is currently downloading at 136 bytes/s(thats mother fking BYTES people!!!!) my internet just isnt up to hosting
Can anyone commit to that?

[kowalski655]

I will try to be,if the internet allows
There is (at least) a free Ford GTLM today so probably will need an update

EFA:Free car comes via a code in a XBL message over the next few days ,so you might not get it right away

Edited by kowalski655 on Tuesday 7th June 19:01

[kowalski655]

PowerslideSWE said:

I'm in depending on the time for the races. Located in Sweden, so just 1 hour difference from the U.K. My spoken English is good enough I reckon, Swedish accent added

Haven't made up my mind on what car to run as of yet.

GamerTag DannyKarlsson72 so I'm an old fart

edit: May I suggest Watkings Glen short as one of the tracks, great for C-class cars.

Edited by PowerslideSWE on Wednesday 8th June 18:54

If that 72 in the GT is year of birth, then thats young Where do you think the 65 in my GT comes from

Anyway,looks like we have quite a few.As mentioned above,my internet just wont hack it at the minute, we need a host(I'm happy to do all the rest) Then we can sort out dates & we are off!

[kowalski655]

I should've on about 9

[kowalski655]

Idle's was at 9 UK time on a Tuesday, gave people time to get fed and ready
I personally just can't get on any earlier than 9 as wife won't give up the bloody telly

[kowalski655]

I will try
My internet is dropping more often than the bass at a Skrillex concert(see,I know wot da yoof is into, innit,well wikkid etc )
It goes down more times than a hooker with her legs tied together!

[kowalski655]

idlewillo said:

gonna get on tonight from 9pm if anyone's around, are we going to get this started, what are we waiting for???

As I mentioned,I hoped to be able to host but BT seem to be fiddling with my exchange that menas I cant get a stable connection
If someone can host I can alter the OP with dates,rules,tracks etc

[kowalski655]

OK,rules and dates up in the OP,Idle if the dates are not OK for you I will change them(I cant make the 1st 3 myself as am away in Yorkshire!!) Hopefully I havent missed anything
Everyone else,feel free to add /update the list of cars & drivers

[kowalski655]

I just divided 15/45 minutes by the approx leaderboard times(I think,I hope my maths is right )
The cars on the list are the ones that actually raced in the BSCC in the 60s/70s(or the nearest FM6 equivalent)plus a few others from Europe & NZ(like the Amazon)See the links in post 2

[kowalski655]

I chose UK & European tracs as this was a homage to the British Saloon Car Championship, but if people want Watkins Glen rather than LM then so be it,or add WG as an extra track

[kowalski655]

Honestly, I don't mind ,its not like I will be winning,you know how crap I am at racing lol
But I don't mind if the others can wait, but don't wait for me

[kowalski655]

That would be great,or post a couple of pics if the results screen and I can do it,but only have my phone to work with, so no fancy tables

Don't forget pics of the races to make me know what I'm missing