Forza Motorsport - Hot Hatch Championship 2024

[Rene Souffle]

Right-o finally it’s here - apologies for the faffery.

I present to you the Hot Hatch Championship….

The races will take place at 20.00 on the last Sunday of every month for the next 10 months. Starting on the 31st of March at and finishing same time on the 29th of December.

I will also run an open private lobby on the second Sunday of every month for testing under race conditions with no points/penalties given. These will also start at 20.00 and will be open to all to come and go as they please. We can all have an input at to tracks and laps for these.

The rules are as follows:

All cars from modern hot hatch or hot hatch icons permitted, except for the 1997 Honda Civic Type R - due to the performance vs PI value of this particular car.

A starting maximum PI of 460.

All performance upgrades permitted.

All races will take place over 15 laps depending on the circuit. The reason for this is the circuit will be chosen at random by the game.

If the full Nurburgring circuit or Le Mans is selected by the game, we will be doing less.

All drivers must perform one mandatory pit stop per race. Whether you choose to change tyres/refuel is up to you.

The scoring will be as follows:

Position Points
1st 25
2nd 18
3rd 15
4th 12
5th 10
6th 8
7th 6
8th 4
9th 2
10th 1

There will be a deduction of 3 points for whoever has the fastest lap.

The will be a gain of 3 points for whoever has the slowest lap.

Win and loss bonuses:

The following PI changes will be taken into the next championship race, by that player (so if you miss a round you still have to take the points gain/decrease).

1st place: - 30 PI
2nd place: - 20 PI
3rd place: - 10 PI

Last place: + 30 PI
2nd to last: + 20 PI
3rd to last: + 10 PI

If we get to a point where someone can no longer drop any more PI - a drive through penalty will have to be served at the end of lap 1.

All races will be standing starts and in a grid order of descending PI.

Hopefully that covers just about everything. Hope a few of you join in and we can have some fun

I will keep the first post up to date with standings.

Let me know your thoughts and let me know if there’s any blindingly obvious mistakes I’ve made

Big thanks to AK8/Kitch88 for helping me with this.

After round one, the championship is as follows:

PH Name	Gamertag	Car	Points	PI for next race
GreatCornholio	EVILHOMER40	Civic '04	22	430
AndyD360	AndyD360	Gold GTI Mk3	18	440
AK8	Kitch88	Peugoet 308	15	450
LHB	LHBx	Toyota AE86	12	460
Chunkychucky	forzaracing69	Toyota AE86	10	460
Idlewillo	Idlewillo	Ford Escort '86	8	460
andyc123_123	ACollins182	Clio '93	6	460
JoshMcC	TH3 LAD	Renault 5 Turbo	4	460
pingu393	ollie ya mum	Mini JCW GP '12	3	490
John_S4x4	oO John S4x4 Oo	Clio '93	2	460
HarryD	Haralabubble	Vauxhal Astra	1	460
CaiosH	CaiosH	?	0	460
Cutters	cutters101	?	0	460
Sunnyone	moley1000	?	0	460
shirt	???	?	0	460
Drema	BigPonk3523	Renault Clio '93	0	470
Rene Souffle	ReneSouffle	Honda CRX	0	480

After round two, the championship is as follows:

PH Name	Gamertag	Car	Rd 1 points	Rd 2 points	Total Points	PI for next race
AK8	Kitch88	Peugeot 308	15	18	33	430
Chunkychucky	forzaracing69	Toyota AE86	10	22	32	430
AndyD360	AndyD360	Gold GTI Mk3	18	6	24	440
GreatCornholio	EVILHOMER40	Civic '04	22	1	23	430
Idlewillo	Idlewillo	Ford Escort '86	8	15	23	450
andyc123_123	ACollins182	Clio '93	6	12	18	460
JoshMcC	TH3 LAD	Renault 5 Turbo	4	10	14	460
LHB	LHBx	Toyota AE86	12	0	12	460
Rene Souffle	ReneSouffle	Honda CRX	0	8	8	480
pingu393	ollie ya mum	Mini JCW GP '12	3	3	6	520
John_S4x4	oO John S4x4 Oo	Clio '93	2	2	4	460
Drema	BigPonk3523	Renault Clio '93	0	4	4	470
HarryD	Haralabubble	Vauxhal Astra	1	0	1	470
y2blade	ChrisBlade46	VW Corrado '95	0	0	0	460
Matthewm94	matthewm94	Peugeot 205	0	0	0	480

Edited by Rene Souffle on Monday 29th April 17:50

[Rene Souffle]

Chunkychucky said:

Rene Souffle said:

Any car from modern hot hatch or hot hatch icons permitted.

A starting maximum PI of 460.

Forgive me it's still early - does the above mean maximum PI of cars on the grid at the 1st round is 460, or maximum PI of the car you choose to tune for the championship is 460?

Either way sounds fun so i'm in

PH Name	Gamertag
LHB	LHBx
pingu393	ollie ya mum
Drema	BigPonk3523
Chunkychucky	forzaracing69

ETA: I might have to wait until that mod comes in that enables you to modify cars without needing to level them up - does anyone know when that's due to be rolled out?

Apologies for any confusion, 460 is the max you can start the race with.

So starting with any hot hatch you like and upgrade or downgrade to 460.

I’d suggest doing some free play races and join me for the test sessions, as we’ll do a few races to help level up the cars. Not sure when the update is coming to pay for upgrades though I’m afraid.

[Rene Souffle]

I’ve had a message from someone regarding the 97 civic type R.

It seems as though the performance is not balanced to the PI level. So basically the car is way faster than it should be for the level it’s at.

I’ve just tuned one to 460 and put it against a 500 car and it’s still a second quicker. The B and C class leaderboards kind of reflect this too.

So for that reason, I’m going to have to say that this car will be excluded from the championship.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

[Rene Souffle]

pingu393 said:

Before I start spending all my son's points, can you confirm that we can race anything that is

MODERN HOT HATCH
or
HOT HATCH ICON,
except Honda 1997 Civic Type R?

Correct

[Rene Souffle]

John_S4x4 said:

Yes - A good selection to choose from.
Something French
Something Honda
Something VW
Something Ford
Something Vauxhall

I do have a stupid mental 800hp Ford Focus in my garage but will need to detune it a bit !

I presume we can buy a car above the 460PI limit if needed but would have to use ballast to lower the PI to the 460PI limit ?

Edited by John_S4x4 on Thursday 29th February 11:00

Absolutely

I can save you a bit of money and tell you you can’t get the Renault 26r low enough

[Rene Souffle]

JoshMcC said:

=PH Name=||=Gamertag=||

LHB	LHBx
pingu393	ollie ya mum
Drema	BigPonk3523
Chunkychucky	forzaracing69
John_S4x4	oO John S4x4 Oo
JoshMcC	TH3 LAD
andyc123_123	ACollins182

Definitely up for this! Going to be a right out slog to test a few cars. Is there a limit on the number of people using the same car just in case we get a grid full of one car?

Added Andy too

Nope. No limit and people can change car if they start with one and it turns out to be a stter.

That’s why the track is at random so you could build a car for a tight twisty circuit and we end up racing Silverstone GP

[Rene Souffle]

We can still work with that….

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/hiRiivHZz2

[Rene Souffle]

PH Name	Gamertag
LHB	LHBx
pingu393	ollie ya mum
Drema	BigPonk3523
Chunkychucky	forzaracing69
John_S4x4	oO John S4x4 Oo
JoshMcC	TH3 LAD
andyc123_123	ACollins182
GreatCornholio	EVILHOMER40
HarryD	Haralabubble

[Rene Souffle]

I’ve just gone for full handling over power so only needed ballast to counteract the goodies on my choice.

[Rene Souffle]

Hehe.

Looks like I’ve created a monster (championship, not car).

I’d guess a few mins to load the tune you want and away we go.

I’ve gone for a one tune does it all, but I’m not exactly expecting to fight at the front any time soon .

[Rene Souffle]

I have no idea. However if you’ve got a Xbox gamertag and I can invite you, pop yourself on the list

[Rene Souffle]

AndyD360 said:

Ok - car built - paint sorted.

Quick time check to see if I have built a complete shed…

Lime Rock Full - 59.813

I’m at 1.01.390 and I’ve got nothing left to give.

Scrap that, just fought my way down to 1.00.209 with a bit of setup tweaking, so not a million miles off the pace.

Edited by Rene Souffle on Wednesday 6th March 20:59

[Rene Souffle]

Completely rebuilt my car and now down to a 59.533 with a bit more time to go.

That is with qualifying fuel level though

[Rene Souffle]

Just you watch Idle come in and smash a 56 second lap with full fuel and hard tyres on

[Rene Souffle]

Yep but as you say, only on race tyres.

I was planning on it, but it was mentioned to me that it’s Mother’s Day this Sunday, so I was going to suggest Saturday night if that works for everyone?

[Rene Souffle]

PH Name	Gamertag
LHB	LHBx
pingu393	ollie ya mum
Drema	BigPonk3523
Chunkychucky	forzaracing69
John_S4x4	oO John S4x4 Oo
JoshMcC	TH3 LAD
andyc123_123	ACollins182
GreatCornholio	EVILHOMER40
HarryD	Haralabubble
AndyD360	AndyD360
Idlewillo	Idlewillo
CaiosH	CaiosH
Cutters	cutters101

[Rene Souffle]

Let’s talk about torque steer

[Rene Souffle]

AndyD360 said:

Rene Souffle said:

Let’s talk about torque steer

How is that even possible!

Think we should all build one for an oval race…

Haha!

That thing will do 178 but looking at the telemetry the fronts are spinning at 257

[Rene Souffle]

GreatCornholio said:

HarryD said:

Rene Souffle said:

AndyD360 said:

Ok - car built - paint sorted.

Quick time check to see if I have built a complete shed…

Lime Rock Full - 59.813

I’m at 1.01.390 and I’ve got nothing left to give.

1:00:965 was best for me. Closer than I thought I’d be!

Just managed a 58.676 on mediums, totally inconsistent until that one.

Definitely happy with the car

Banned

[Rene Souffle]

I’ve just pinged everyone a message on Xbox chat but also thought I’ll pop it on here.

Going to run this Sundays test session tomorrow night instead as it’s Mother’s Day and appreciate some people might be out.

Hope to see a few of your there