Eve online - nnnnoooooooooooooooo!!

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Why oh why did I install this again recently?

After a year or so away (and telling myself never to go back) I did the unimaginable, downloaded the client and installed it on my new PC!

Its taking over my life again, aarrgghh!

At least my fiancee seems 'quite' understanding! However, Professor Layton has now been completed so she isn't so easily distracted anymore! At least we have the Friends complete 10 series DVD to fall back on!! But, i'm quickly running out of options.

Help ...... me!

P.S My in-game name is WhiteFusion if anyone else on here plays this!

Edited to add: and the new graphics look so nice! Damn damn damn!

Edited by funkyrobot on Tuesday 6th January 08:39

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chris watton said:

I have just downloaded the free 21 day subscription from Steam. What's the best way to get started, as it looks complex to me.

It's €20 per month though, I think that's quite a lot for a game, or is that the going rate? (Guild Wars is good, and it's free, once the game has been purchased - €20 every month is hard to swallow..)

Its not that much after the first month. I think it goes down to 14 euros a month after, but I pay by 3-month installment which makes it less than that per month. Just double check the Eve webby, would do for you but I need the loo and its home time from work!

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Mannginger said:

A very good online game:

http://myeve.eve-online.com/download/videos/Defaul...

Can be a life-eater though...

And widow maker! And I don't even mean the doomsday weapon!

I was on the phone to a good friend the other night who also plays this. We were talking the old Eve lingo (which I'm still pretty new to) and dropping words like 'shield tanker', 'low sec', 'stabbers', 'webbers (not the driver', 'high slots', 'hardpoints' etc etc. Also got into a moan about skill training.

My fiancee was in the background with her mum and dad whispering 'its so funny because none of it is real!'. How sad lol!

Saying that, i'm still fairly new to the game and some of the lingo baffles me!! Crazy stuff!

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Tonsko said:

john_p said:

^^ actually carriers and dreadnoughts are usually quite reasonable to insure, I think you get about 800m back after insurance.

I fly a Falcon quite a lot.. I think the insurance returns 15 million - where I am you'll probably pay 120 million for the hull alone! Then say 30m in fittings/rigs... it soon adds up.

I do try not to lose them though, helped by the fact you're normally 250km from the action

Edited by john_p on Thursday 8th January 12:52

Aye, but this idiot was repping a POS we'd put into reinforce mode the day before, out of the shield bubble. The system did have some of his corp mates arrive (~5), but they had to sit inside the shield and watch as we took the carrier down. We actually gave up at one point, as we couldn't crack his armour tank (he went into triage), but then another 30 or so BSs turned up, and it was all over. Fleet was around 70, no capitals.

Tonsko, which corp you in? It sounds much more fun than the one i'm in at the moment!

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Tonsko said:

funkyrobot said:

Tonsko, which corp you in? It sounds much more fun than the one i'm in at the moment!

It's undoubtably fun (and expensive)! I was in one corp, but a few of them moved to Provi, and left me knocking around missioning, with very little support. After about a month of this, I was about to give the game up, but then a guy I worked with said come over to his corp - they were based in Curse. So I loaded up my brand spanking new Stabber, misunderstood the instructions as I was coming through Sendaya and jumped straight into an Agony gatecamp. *Ftoom*. It was a feckin' 'dictor bubble, so I managed to come through in that crucial 2 minute period. Well done me!

Second go I came in with a (more sensible) shuttle and avoided everything.

The corp I'm in is Masuat'aa Matari, and is part of the Ushra'Khan alliance. It is a RP alliance, and they tend to prefer you to be Minmatar. They are all super friendly, and super supportive, and gave me a new, fully fitted cruiser from the corp hangars to replace the one I'd lost on the way down, which was a nice start. Since then I've been involved in roams, gatecamps, big ops, little ops, POS destruction, POS theft...etc.

It's got even more exciting in curse/catch since last week, as the Northern Coalistion has declared war on...well everyone it seems... and our systems are right smack in the middle of it.

I can't see me ever moving corp/alliance until I leave the game tbh.

Edited by Tonsko on Thursday 8th January 14:30

I used to play the game a bit in 2007 but didn't keep it going for long, so didn't really do much and get into a good corp.

I restarted the game with a new char about 3-4 weeks ago and have ended up in a corp that my friend is in. Just as I joined it they left a big alliance, and since then its been dead, no activity whatsoever! I'm just mission running at the moment (only lvl 1) and the only advantage is that my mate logs in and we do some fleet stuff together.

Apart from that its pretty boring. I can now fly battlecruisers and can use 4 drones at once (wow lol). I am Gallente though so probably wouldn't fit into your corp if they did offer me a spot. My learning skills are good so it doesn't usually take me that long to learn things (this is one thing I learned from my previous attempt at Eve!).

I have never been into anything lower sec than 0.4 and have never been engaged in any PvP. This is something I am looking to dabble in though. It seems so much more fun than what i'm doing at the moment, which consists of flying missions to get my standing up and the odd bit of ratting.

Any ideas about what I should do to get into low sec? I know it'll be a case of moving corps but do you know of any good ones to move to, bearing in mind my char is only about a month old!

Thanks!

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Tonsko said:

Mine's only 2 months old - 3.4 Million SP, with 1.5 in learning too! So all in all, we're pretty similar - learn quickly, but can't shoot straight. Hehe. I'll ask the bosses if there's an opening - won't be in MM, but might be in U'K. Although they RP, they tend to shy away from hard and fast rules as it makes everything less fun!

What alliance were you in? If U'K accept you and you join, bear in mind that you will go red to most of the galaxy!

As for which corp you join, depends which alliance you want to be in...most of the big ones have areas in nullsec, if not sovereignty. Beyond that, I'm afraid I don't know...I'm only new at this, and the game is so big. Some of the older hands might be able to offer more concrete advice on that front.

Blimey, 2 months old! You sound like a seasoned player lol! When i'm next on (should be weekend) i'll add you to my buddies list and we can take it from there.

I'm just after something a bit more entertaining than the drab that I seem to be in at the moment. I am on at least 3 nights of the week but apart from my mate there is nobody around!!

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Mannginger said:

Funky - maybe have a chat with the guys in Galaxy Punks? There's a few PHers there and they were looking for new members. Last I heard they had moved away from the larger coalition battles and were back in Naguton causing havoc to the local shipping, although I've been out of contact for some months now.

They were great to fly with and fairly active every night. Good Teamspeak group as well with plenty of banter.

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Thanks Mann. I'll check them out!

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Tonsko said:

funkyrobot said:

Blimey, 2 months old! You sound like a seasoned player lol! When i'm next on (should be weekend) i'll add you to my buddies list and we can take it from there.

I'm just after something a bit more entertaining than the drab that I seem to be in at the moment. I am on at least 3 nights of the week but apart from my mate there is nobody around!!

Nice of you to say so...but you'd be surprised how quickly you learn in nullsec. You are *constantly* on the alert.

There's only one other game (Company of Heroes) that has made my heart beat so hard as it does in Eve...E.G. On a late night roam, intel comes through from the scout in the system ahead of incoming reds, 5 strong. We're on the other side waiting to jump, maybe 4-6 cruisers and BCs. The cloaked scout waits for 1 or two to jump through, then decoaks to red box the others, hoping they'll go for the easy kill (and split their fleet). You're on the other side, seeing these reds jump in. There they are! Target! I'm being jammed! Somebody point them, quick! Target! Drones - attack! Resists on! MWD to 5K! Let them have it! Battle is joined! Then the reds on the other side get the call - if they haven't aggro'd, suddenly they're jumping through, and the odds even up. Shields down! Armour 80%! Get that repper on! He's in structure! Hold him! Cap dying! Warping to safe!

...are just some of the thoughts that fly through my head. Suddenly, I'm frozen, my mouse won't move, my brain locks up in a feedback loop...this stuff is so easy! I know how to do it normally! st!

Then the scout pipes up, "Red spike in system. 10 reds arriving at outgate! RUN!"

Disengage!


Lol.

Awesome.

Thats my problem at the mo, I ain't seeing anything like that.

My average mission on Eve is like this:

Agent says go kill someone. I get there, rats appear, my drones kill them. I get isk and slightly better standing.

Oh and sometimes I get a 'really' important storyline mission where I have to take a crate of beer 6 jumps away!!! YAWN!!

Thats it lol!! How rubbish.

I think I need to pursue something like you've been used to!

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Tonsko said:

Just found out funky - MM is the only corp that prefers Minmatars. All the other corps allow folk from every other race.

Go here for recruitment:

http://www.ushrakhan.com/alliance/viewforum.php?f=...

Thanks for that. Will check it out.

Oh yes, and we're propping this thread up nicely so that the WOW lot don't get a look in lol!

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tank slapper said:

funkyrobot said:

Mannginger said:

Funky - maybe have a chat with the guys in Galaxy Punks? There's a few PHers there and they were looking for new members. Last I heard they had moved away from the larger coalition battles and were back in Naguton causing havoc to the local shipping, although I've been out of contact for some months now.

They were great to fly with and fairly active every night. Good Teamspeak group as well with plenty of banter.

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Thanks Mann. I'll check them out!

If you are interested, message me in game for a chat.

Hi, thanks.

Is your in-game name the same as on here? Mine is different, as you may know!

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Haven't been on Eve since last week (new exercise regime to lose the flab lol), but after reading this i'm hungry for some Eve action tonight.

Going to chase up that lead that someone posted for me earlier in the thread (Tank Slapper), and going to investigate getting into a 0.0 sec corp.

Just to give you an idea of the boring end of Eve, logged on last week for a bit. 5 members of my corp were sat in station discussing what they were going to do but nobody wanted to do anything!! Soooo boring and pointless!

So, if I have time tonight i'm going on the hunt for a 0.0 corp. I think I shall post something up on the Eve forums too about this. Heads-up all!

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Scraggles said:

do a search for a guy by the name of Macks he is in punt - some low sec / 0.0 pvp corp that seem to have a lot of fun

I'm online tonight hopefully, so will do that!

Nearly able to train mining barges, oh yeah!

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Tonsko said:

Mining! Don't do it!

Need to mine as i'm getting into industry lol.

It is pretty naff but its ok with a mix of missions and ratting etc.

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Tonsko, i like your replies!

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Famous Graham said:

bd OP.

You had to mention Eve didn't you...

Reinstalled it 2 days ago

Haven't played for a couple of years but had some good fun big ole Alliance scraps. Totally at the bottom of the learning curve again though.

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tank slapper said:

Tonsko said:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSjd6HNQdY&feat...

On the other hand:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ub0YaZoTvfI

That isn't all game footage, is it? If it is then what the hell is it being run on? lol

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Mannginger said:

Yup - looks all ingame to me and pretty standard. My PC would run premium graphics content all day long and would only stutter when engaged in very large scale fleet combat.

Eve's surprisingly resource friendly, especially given the really quite pretty graphics!

Blimey!

I know the premium stuff looks good asit runs ok on my PC. Some of that video just seemed like cgi! How did they get all of the swoopy camera stuff though, I thought you could only fix the camera on other objects etc.

Also, how do you get screens without the overview and stuff on, and how do you take a screenshot lol?

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Alfanatic said:

ctrl+TAB hides all menus and windows so you only see space and whatever's in it (like your ship). Ctrl+TAB will then restore all menus and windows. Alt+Print Screen takes a screenshot of whatever you see on screen, and stores it by default in, I think, documents and settings / eve / captures. I think the default save location can be changed but can't remember where. Most likely in the menus you get when hitting Esc while in game somewhere.

Warning about hiding all windows: I've got a great but involuntary screenshot of my pod taking fire in front of the wreck of Steve. 'Nuff said!

Edited by Alfanatic on Tuesday 20th January 12:43

Cheers man.

By the way, your reply is useless without pictures lol!

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Good stuff Tonsko! Interesting as always!

I have a few noob questions for you.

If you do find yourself within a warp bubble when coming through a gate, what is the best course of action to take?

Also, if someone is warp scrambling you, do you need warp core stabilisers to get out of this?

Cheers man!

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Tonsko said:

Warp Bubbles:

If you jump into a gate camp, there are one or two game features that you can exploit to try and stay alive - they aren't exploits, just helpful things. You may have noticed that when you jump into a new system, you will be cloaked, and will only uncloak when you move. You will also be in a random position in a 25km (or so) diameter area around the gate.

Situation: you jump in, you see that metallic flashy thing in front of you and you know you're in a bubble. Your overview is very red! First thing - Don't do anything! The campers will have seen the gate activate, but you have 20 seconds grace while still cloaked. What you need to do is see how many bad guys there are - if there's loads, you need to get out! Click on the gate in your overview, be ready on the quick keys of your MWD and click the 'Approach' icon. As soon as you turn around, you will decloak, so you will be locked. Gatecamps often have fast targeters, so anticipate incoming fire within about 5 seconds. As soon as you are aligned to the gate, hit the MWD and close as fast as possible - and hope you get within jump range! Spam the jump button, and you might get lucky.

Warp Core Stabs:

If you look at the information for the stabs, you will see there is a scramble strength stat of -1. This will counteract 1 point of warp core disruption - so if they have a Tech 2 Scrambler, they have a scramble strength of 2, so you will still effectively be scrambled, and would need another Stab to counteract this.

Edited by Tonsko on Tuesday 27th January 14:05

Oh right, thanks for this.

I don't have a MWD fitted yet, only afterburners. Are MWDs a good buy then? I also don't have any stabs fitted as yet, so if I fancy a trip into low sec sometime, are they worth fitting too?

Thanks Tonsko.

Edited to add - I suppose its a trade of between good defence and good offence then. Stack the ship up with stabs and MWD and lose the slots for guns, and you have a better chance of getting away from gate camps.

Edited by funkyrobot on Tuesday 27th January 15:28