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Just seen this - looks amazing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjNjcrQZtd8
No sign of it on Amazon yet so no idea how much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjNjcrQZtd8
No sign of it on Amazon yet so no idea how much.
Well it was astonishingly regular bulls
t - regular enough for me not to want to put several hundred quid where it was liable to disappear forever.
Even if it was user error, who says I won't make the same mistake? Even while saying it's bullst you admit to dunking yours in a lake (albeit you got it back - well done).
t - regular enough for me not to want to put several hundred quid where it was liable to disappear forever. Even if it was user error, who says I won't make the same mistake? Even while saying it's bulls
t you admit to dunking yours in a lake (albeit you got it back - well done).
It's really not complicated, and I'm genuinely curious about the issue, since it's a major deterrent to buying one.
There are many reports of these things unintentionally going down. You've claimed that they're bullst before admitting that, err, it's happened to you too!
So either they are (and whether that's a fundamental fault with the machine or an ongoing issue with the control of the things is largely irrelevant when you're staring at the spreading ripples across 20 metre deep water where your multi-hundred pound drone used to be).
OR it's, as you say, all bullst - presumably therefore including your own experience since you've admitted that it happened to you (albeit you managed to recover it before it disappeared completely).
And to bring the discussion back on track, assuming that it isn't mass DJI Phantom inspired 'bullst', then if the GoPro Karma has a better designed control system that means people aren't accidentally losing control the things, or doesn't have whatever flaw it is that causes these things to drop out of the sky, (or better yet is waterproof and floats, but presumably they're have mentioned it if it was) then that's a pretty major plus if (as I would be), you're planning to fly them regularly over deep water (which is why I've not bought one yet).
There are many reports of these things unintentionally going down. You've claimed that they're bulls
t before admitting that, err, it's happened to you too! So either they are (and whether that's a fundamental fault with the machine or an ongoing issue with the control of the things is largely irrelevant when you're staring at the spreading ripples across 20 metre deep water where your multi-hundred pound drone used to be).
OR it's, as you say, all bulls
t - presumably therefore including your own experience since you've admitted that it happened to you (albeit you managed to recover it before it disappeared completely).And to bring the discussion back on track, assuming that it isn't mass DJI Phantom inspired 'bulls
t', then if the GoPro Karma has a better designed control system that means people aren't accidentally losing control the things, or doesn't have whatever flaw it is that causes these things to drop out of the sky, (or better yet is waterproof and floats, but presumably they're have mentioned it if it was) then that's a pretty major plus if (as I would be), you're planning to fly them regularly over deep water (which is why I've not bought one yet).Edited by Ari on Saturday 24th September 11:36
I get the potential human error point. But what you seem unable to grasp is that it doesn't matter! Or as you might put it, IT DOESN'T MATTER! 
We're on one single tiny thread on an obscure section of a motoring forum that isn't even about DJI Phantoms, and there are two, possibly three, reported incidents right here in this thread - your own being one of them FFS!
The bottom line is, whether the reason those drones are (potentially) at the bottom of a lake is down to operator error or a fault with the machine, until such time as a magic drone fairy replaces every one lost to operator error, then the nett result is exactly the same. You've lost your drone and are going to need to stump up £xxx for a new one, quite apart from the inconvenience, lost footage and whatever else.
I'm not trying to talk the Phantom down (pardon the pun), in fact I'd be very happy to be reassured - I'd like a drone and the Phantom is a hell of a lot cheaper than the Karma (which is unproven anyway so who knows if it might display similar traits).
But so far I've not been, despite your valiant use of capitals. It would appear that the chance of sinking one may be small, but it's very very real.
We're on one single tiny thread on an obscure section of a motoring forum that isn't even about DJI Phantoms, and there are two, possibly three, reported incidents right here in this thread - your own being one of them FFS!
The bottom line is, whether the reason those drones are (potentially) at the bottom of a lake is down to operator error or a fault with the machine, until such time as a magic drone fairy replaces every one lost to operator error, then the nett result is exactly the same. You've lost your drone and are going to need to stump up £xxx for a new one, quite apart from the inconvenience, lost footage and whatever else.
I'm not trying to talk the Phantom down (pardon the pun), in fact I'd be very happy to be reassured - I'd like a drone and the Phantom is a hell of a lot cheaper than the Karma (which is unproven anyway so who knows if it might display similar traits).
But so far I've not been, despite your valiant use of capitals. It would appear that the chance of sinking one may be small, but it's very very real.
uber said:
With any drone you have to be comfortable with the fact you may lose it at some point unless you are a very cautious pilot
A fair summary. But I still have the same issue that my intended use is over water (I'd like to be able to film my boat underway, I think that would be awesome) so if I do lose it, it's gone for good.Also, the system that automatically returns the drone 'home' in the event of issues isn't much use on a boat as you're very unlikely to be where you started (even at anchor you drift about).
I totally appreciate that these are perhaps problems specific to me, and if you're flying over land the likelihood is that you just have to go find where it crashed and pick it up which is an entirely different situation.
But I'm still stuck with the situation that any problem (including one normally automatically resolved by the drone returning to its start position and landing) is extremely likely to result in the loss of several hundred pounds of equipment.
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