Duratec V6... Has it ever been done?
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Be better off with the Jag engine out of the x type though as Jaguar took the duratec and reworked a lot of it.Timing chains instead of belts etc also it has quite a bit more power standard. If you look up "TVR S series eurotour 2014" I think Damian S3 was putting one in but don't know how it finally faired?
The cat is outa the bag;
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=137...
Donor cars can be had for very little £700ish.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=137...
Donor cars can be had for very little £700ish.
Hi
This may help
http://www.super7thheaven.co.uk/components/duratec...
Alan
And this
http://www.key-ideas.com/DGKurTwo2112402Update.htm...
http://www.mulfab.co.uk/our-products/7/other-misce...
This may help
http://www.super7thheaven.co.uk/components/duratec...
Alan
And this
http://www.key-ideas.com/DGKurTwo2112402Update.htm...
http://www.mulfab.co.uk/our-products/7/other-misce...
Edited by Alan Whitaker on Saturday 28th November 14:30
Damian's brilliant conversion proves it can be done, and deliver an improvement on the old V6. But just out of interest, why do you want to do it? If it is for the technical challenge then fine, but if it is just about more power then buying a V8S will give you similar power and more torque and probably work out cheaper in the long run. Good luck which ever way you go
Thank you all for the help and advice so far, Damian's car looks fantastic and I'm sure I'll be bending his ear if he doesn't mind and if this gets off the ground
I have a particular interest in this engine which will become apparent if you see what I currently own in my profile. Granted the Duratec is not normally something that would be chosen but I believe the space available will allow the creation of at least a turbo or preferably twin turbo setup and should allow a very easily achievable 420bhp/420lbft which is considered a fairly mild tune.
Main considerations are:
Overall packaging into the bay (engine ancillaries, manifolds & exhaust pipework, intercooler/chargecooler, etc)
Gearbox (choice, strength & fitment)
Inlet plumbing (Ford inlet & TB would face the bulkhead)
Suitability of brakes and suspension.
v8s4me said:
Damian's brilliant conversion proves it can be done, and deliver an improvement on the old V6. But just out of interest, why do you want to do it? If it is for the technical challenge then fine, but if it is just about more power then buying a V8S will give you similar power and more torque and probably work out cheaper in the long run. Good luck which ever way you go
My reasons are that I've always had a soft spot for the S after driving a friend's car many years ago. This was rekindled while at Bespoke's open day earlier this year and increased when seeing the car with the MX5 roof fitted.I have a particular interest in this engine which will become apparent if you see what I currently own in my profile. Granted the Duratec is not normally something that would be chosen but I believe the space available will allow the creation of at least a turbo or preferably twin turbo setup and should allow a very easily achievable 420bhp/420lbft which is considered a fairly mild tune.
Main considerations are:
Overall packaging into the bay (engine ancillaries, manifolds & exhaust pipework, intercooler/chargecooler, etc)
Gearbox (choice, strength & fitment)
Inlet plumbing (Ford inlet & TB would face the bulkhead)
Suitability of brakes and suspension.
I see where you're coming from. You can get tried and tested turbo and supercharger kits for the V8 which would give you similar figures, without as many technical challenges, but then I guess you know that already. I'd still contend the V8S would be a better starting point because you'll already have rear discs, a wider track and an LSD as standard and wouldn't have so may other problems to solve. Anyway, it'll be a fascinating project to follow which ever way you go.
BTW, the 'S' at Bespoke with the MX5 roof is a V8S, and it's in MY garage
BTW, the 'S' at Bespoke with the MX5 roof is a V8S, and it's in MY garage
v8s4me said:
I see where you're coming from. You can get tried and tested turbo and supercharger kits for the V8 which would give you similar figures, without as many technical challenges, but then I guess you know that already. I'd still contend the V8S would be a better starting point because you'll already have rear discs, a wider track and an LSD as standard and wouldn't have so may other problems to solve. Anyway, it'll be a fascinating project to follow which ever way you go.
BTW, the 'S' at Bespoke with the MX5 roof is a V8S, and it's in MY garage
Ha! Brilliant! Your car looked fantastic and it was nice to meet you, even if it was briefly. My car was the blue one dumped by the entrance because I arrived late as per usual.BTW, the 'S' at Bespoke with the MX5 roof is a V8S, and it's in MY garage
In honestly I didn't know there were such differences between the V8 and V6 models - I know very little about them at all in fact. Maybe I should start with a V8 to convert? I'm hoping the whole project won't be too costly and I suspect turboing a V8 would be similar in cost to the Duratec route. I'd be aiming for under £10k total including buying a car.
Blu3R said:
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Ha! Brilliant! Your car looked fantastic and it was nice to meet you...
Thank you.Ha! Brilliant! Your car looked fantastic and it was nice to meet you...
Blu3R said:
...I'm hoping the whole project won't be too costly and I suspect turboing a V8 would be similar in cost to the Duratec route. I'd be aiming for under £10k total including buying a car.
Well Powers do a RV8 turbo kit giving a claimed 338 bhp with 427lb ft of torque at the rear wheels for £3,500 +VAT http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/upgrades/rv8-tu... so that's quite good value on a bhp/£ basis. But doing the whole project for under £10K might be optimistic I think, even doing it all yourself. Good luck again though.Gassing Station | S Series | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff