Who is bogging off after the YES vote?
Discussion
jith said:
I'm trying so hard to keep out of this, but there are some really silly buggers on here.
The SNP won't be running the country. Waken up for god's sake! There will be an election and all the so called Westminster faithfuls from all parties will be only too happy to run for election in an independent Scotland.
How in the name of god can you justify this country being run by Westminster? They have positively devastated it for centuries. We have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Oh by the way, best of luck in England; and watch out for the bailiffs, millions of speed cameras, massive overpopulation; constant traffic jams, horrible accents, monstrous house prices, wheel clamps, nowhere to park, everyone fawning at the royal babies, the brutal parasitical London stock exchange, etc, etc.
J
But I am told that Scotland will become a workers paradise with huge benefits for those that don't work.The SNP won't be running the country. Waken up for god's sake! There will be an election and all the so called Westminster faithfuls from all parties will be only too happy to run for election in an independent Scotland.
How in the name of god can you justify this country being run by Westminster? They have positively devastated it for centuries. We have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Oh by the way, best of luck in England; and watch out for the bailiffs, millions of speed cameras, massive overpopulation; constant traffic jams, horrible accents, monstrous house prices, wheel clamps, nowhere to park, everyone fawning at the royal babies, the brutal parasitical London stock exchange, etc, etc.
J
I wonder will end up paying for this?
SirChris said:
Scotland is full of people, exactly the same people you find in England. We are just bloody bored of the s
t. I personally think that the separation would mean that governments have a smaller foot print when solving issues, money, resources, care, just everything. Give it a go? Development, development, development. Things are st anyway, what difference will it make. If it makes the people happy, thats it at the end of the day, it might be good, or bad, we won't find out until we try.
That is what pisses me off the mostt. I personally think that the separation would mean that governments have a smaller foot print when solving issues, money, resources, care, just everything. Give it a go? Development, development, development. Things are st anyway, what difference will it make. If it makes the people happy, thats it at the end of the day, it might be good, or bad, we won't find out until we try. If Scotland is so s
t then use your freedom to fk off out of it and find somewhere better to live.As i've travelled the world and Scotland is pretty f
king greatCorpulent Tosser said:
I don't think I will be leaving, but then I don't think there will be a yes majority.
In the event of a yes vote I will be looking closely at the negotiations between the Scottish and UK governments and weighing up the implications of those negotiations.
I might then consider leaving.
I think you might of missed the boatIn the event of a yes vote I will be looking closely at the negotiations between the Scottish and UK governments and weighing up the implications of those negotiations.
I might then consider leaving.
As anyone i have talked to with an IQ higher then a fish or the slightest idea of how the world works is talking about bogging off.
I can see property price crashing
For the YES voters
The property prices will crash as they know that Salmond is going to bring fairer to everyone and all the rich will be mad equal
drangular said:
simoid said:
What economic information do you think is relevant to independence on that businessforscotland website?
Eh!? It's ALL about business, economics and independence!!a large proportion of them have filed no accounts or are contractors for the SNP and YES campaign
If you still think it is unbiased then try
www.ihatetheenglishtoryb
ds.comcozmcrae said:
I'm leaving for non-independence reasons. The only thing that might entice me back would be a YES vote. I'm fed up with the state this country is currently in with all the food banks and poverty.
Well sell your M5 and give the money to the poorPoor little oppressed soul forced to drive a BMW
NEWSFLASH
Poverty is not having an old model iPhone
Poverty is people starving in the streets which i don't see in Scotland
But if you want to move to a better country then do it now before you lose you're oppressive passport
ViperPict said:
McWigglebum4th said:
ViperPict said:
Self-confessed trolling...
Remind us again why you are your buddy oneblackswan got banned from the thread in NPE?Well post in it dear troll
ViperPict said:
There a few of the usual suspects here but a lot more people commenting who can actually vote in the referendum. And a split of opinion more in line with the wider debate.
On topic: I repeat that anyone deciding to leave now is just making an emotional knee-jerk decision! And I think 90% bravado.
AgreeOn topic: I repeat that anyone deciding to leave now is just making an emotional knee-jerk decision! And I think 90% bravado.
But i think it will be very very nasty for Scotland once the YES vote comes in
If i had nothing worth saving in scotland i would be off now because of folk like yourself
Lots of bluff and bluster with zero content
Humper said:
Yeah, I find my attitude charming, nearly as charming as those who reply 
I have no idea(nor do I care) how much you earn. Not my problem.
I didn't vote for nuclear waste to be dumped here, nor the Poll Tax, nor war with Argentina/Afghanistan/Iraq/etc, nor many other things.
I personally think Salmond's a prick.
I also think most politicians are pricks.(I have a friend who's a Provost so can't say all)
I'd rather be governed by Scottish pricks than English ones.
I will be voting for Scotland to become a country, not the SNP.
Of course there will be problems with independence, you'd be a Muppet to think otherwise. But i reckon it'd be worth the aggro, other countries, people die for the right to vote for independence, all we Scots have to do is get off our fat arses and mark an x in the box. Trouble is, too many self centred people aren't willing to take the risk. So yes, Scotland would be better off without you if you are unwilling to help your country in a time of need.
What a charmerI have no idea(nor do I care) how much you earn. Not my problem.
I didn't vote for nuclear waste to be dumped here, nor the Poll Tax, nor war with Argentina/Afghanistan/Iraq/etc, nor many other things.
I personally think Salmond's a prick.
I also think most politicians are pricks.(I have a friend who's a Provost so can't say all)
I'd rather be governed by Scottish pricks than English ones.
I will be voting for Scotland to become a country, not the SNP.
Of course there will be problems with independence, you'd be a Muppet to think otherwise. But i reckon it'd be worth the aggro, other countries, people die for the right to vote for independence, all we Scots have to do is get off our fat arses and mark an x in the box. Trouble is, too many self centred people aren't willing to take the risk. So yes, Scotland would be better off without you if you are unwilling to help your country in a time of need.
Seeing the YES drum bangers have pulled this away from those that don't want to live in their perfect scotland to how everyone is bullying scotland and how they hate the tory part and west minister and the tory party and maggie and the tory party and did i mention the tory party?
oh you don't care that much about your fellow scots
As to be honest
Giving your car away will probably be cheaper then your vision of some socialist fking utopia.
Increase state benefits by a large amount
We already run a deficit where is the cash going to come from?
ViperPict said:
Poverty and hardship equate to depressing mediocrity in your book?!
.
Well sell your car and give the money to charity.
oh you don't care that much about your fellow scots
As to be honest
Giving your car away will probably be cheaper then your vision of some socialist f
king utopia.ViperPict said:
I already said the UK is OK (as Project Fear do). It's not the worst place to live but could be much better. Aim high and don't accept mediocrity.
So what are we going to do to stop poverty in scotland?Increase state benefits by a large amount
We already run a deficit where is the cash going to come from?
ViperPict said:
But not 'unfavour' building ships in Scotland either...
You think we can make them cheaper then Poland?We probably could if we drop the minimum wage and remove unemployment benefits.
Then the shipyards can pay workers less then a polish shipyard worker.
It might happen in my vision of an independent Scotland where all state benefits are stopped and workhouses are opened.
Are you happy with my vision for Scotland?
OlberJ said:
I'll be staying and I'll be doing my damndest to make it a better place everyday which will make my life better. I don't see that work producing the same results when we're still "living with parents" as a nation.
Sadly while you might have a sensible head on the majority of the YES voters want to move out of the parents house and immidately buy a brand new audi on financeSo i will say due to the bizarre hatred of education that has emerged in the poorer areas of the UK that the voters in those areas are too poorly educated and thick to realise the outcome of their choices.
Look at the screams throughout the UK to increase spending
You want to live in a spend+borrow spend+borrow spend+borrow spend+borrow nation then vote YES
OlberJ said:
A.J.M said:
BAE have two 15 year contracts which started in 2009, I believe for future work for mod ships.
They were given a 4 year £104 million contract in 2010 to develop the new T26 fleet and the designs are currently bearing the final stages.
With first steel cutting expected by next year.
They are expecting to transform the Scotston yard into the new yard for the T26, Govan is not owned by BAE but rented and would continue with other roles.
I have asked my friend, however, for more information on the matter and will report back when he replies.
The Portsmouth docks will still continue to service and maintain ships and is the likely home of the new QE class carriers, the ship building section is still capable of being given the T26 order and the following funds to rebuild the yard to suit.
So it doesn't matter if it's a yes or a no, the building will continue up here until 2024. Then they can move it to Portsmouth if they like.They were given a 4 year £104 million contract in 2010 to develop the new T26 fleet and the designs are currently bearing the final stages.
With first steel cutting expected by next year.
They are expecting to transform the Scotston yard into the new yard for the T26, Govan is not owned by BAE but rented and would continue with other roles.
I have asked my friend, however, for more information on the matter and will report back when he replies.
The Portsmouth docks will still continue to service and maintain ships and is the likely home of the new QE class carriers, the ship building section is still capable of being given the T26 order and the following funds to rebuild the yard to suit.
k did you come up with the conclusion that BAE will build ships in scotland until 2024 considering the highlighted parts?OlberJ said:
I'm not avoiding facts as we don't have any facts yet!
Westminster won't deal in facts until after the referendum remember?
Plan A is the only way. Don't like it, we'll come down and wreck the place. A coo d'etart is on the cards and westminster is clearly scared.
So should there be another referendum once the details are know?Westminster won't deal in facts until after the referendum remember?
Plan A is the only way. Don't like it, we'll come down and wreck the place. A coo d'etart is on the cards and westminster is clearly scared.
Will the SNP promise this?
OlberJ said:
The difference being, it's your house. You decide what to do with it.
Rather than living in someone else's house and paying them rent.
The latter leaves no room for us to flourish, as has been shown over the last couple of hundred years. And flourish does not equate to being involved in wars to show how great we are.
You sir and your ilk are the reason i am voting NORather than living in someone else's house and paying them rent.
The latter leaves no room for us to flourish, as has been shown over the last couple of hundred years. And flourish does not equate to being involved in wars to show how great we are.
YOU are the foot soldiers of the YES movement
and you refuse to enter into any deabte and refuse to provide any facts
You just waffle on about want want want want and not a f
king clue how we can pay for it or even provide itFacts not fairy tails
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