Wedge Under Bonnet Pics

[John042]

Hi All. I wonder if anyone could help with some under bonnet photos? I'm still in the process of re-assembling my 1984 2.8i Wedge. The engine is in, but I've got boxes of bits from the previous owner. Most are hopefully from my car; he was a hoarder. Basically it is the layout of coolant pipes, mounting for the power steering pump/alternator and the injection system. I know what should go where, but with boxes of brackets, odd pipes and parts from an efi injection system it's a bit of a puzzle. My mate had the cheek to sell his, the new owner exporting it before I had a chance to get to it. Incidentally are Wedges becoming attractive to overseas buyers? I know of 3 that have left UK. Any help would be great, thankyou. John C

[John042]

To the rescue again Zig, thanks. I'm away from my house at the moment but will, on my return, root around the boxes and see if any look familiar. The fuel filter was left in situ' bolted onto the nearside wing with the fuel delivery pipe protruding out from the inner wing meaning that the fuel distributor was mounted at the nearside front? I think it's complete except the large square inlet must have fitted onto a filter housing? Happy day or what? Cheers Mate. John C.

[John042]

Hi, thanks Zig, Wedg1e and marcus1875. Can't open your pics marcus, at work, firewalls etc. As Zig suggests I'll taks some pics of what I've got and go from there. A preliminary look revealed a tension bracket hanging off a redunant timing cover!! What else will turn up? Cheers John C.

[John042]

Hi Zig, Wedg1e & marcus1875 here's a shot of the brackets I've found so far. The pwr steering pump looks as if it's got the original bracket still fitted? The others I assume are tensioning brackets for the alternator? Hope the pics OK? Connected to the fuel distributor there is a large square inlet covered by a wire mesh, as yet I've found no air filter box to connect it to. Thanks again for the pics. John C.

[John042]

Thanks again Zig & marcus1875. I guessed, as you, the slotted brackets are alternator tensioners, the pump, I'm hoping has the original fitment brackets as it came off. No idler tension pulleys? The fuel distributor assembly; I will post up a photo. The square inlet to the air control flap must have mounted onto a air filter housing of some sort. That I've yet to find. Cheers John C.

[John042]

Hi all. Pic of the fuel distributor and air take?? Also the cover on the right is that a shroud for ignition distributor? Unfortunately there isn't any sort of airbox/filter assembly in the parts I received. Thanks again for any help. John C.

[John042]

Nice one Zig.The other bit looks like it might be off a hair dryer with little clips around the sides?? Anyway, the square inlet housing attached to the fuel distributor is quite large (10"x 5") and only has a course wire mesh. I guess this originally attached to a similar sized air box which contained an air filter? The inlet pipe (3") which connects to the inlet manifold looks standard, whether I can disconnect the box assembly from the fuel distributor and fit another 3" pipe to a simple cone type filter remains to be investigated. It's certainly a strange set up.
Cheers John C.

[John042]

Thanks Zig. Update, I've managed to aquire a secondhand Capri air box, the part you mentioned. Hopefully it will fit and I can fabricate an inlet to duct cool air into the box. Cheers again, John042.

[John042]

Great Marcus. I've found that bracket on top of the alternator hanging on an earth lead in yet another box marked "trim" Super pic, can I take you up on the kind offer and ask you for a pic of the steering pump belt run please? I've found an idler pulley mounted on a bracket, would this be the tensioning pulley for the pump belt?
Zig, the saga of the fuel distributor goes on as the Capri air box doesn't fit my fuel distributor. Fortunately Capri international, John, is willing to split a unit up and sell the adaptor plate so I can fit the Capri air box. Then a simple mod to duct cool air into the system. Yesterday I fitted the fuel filter and connected the fuel ditributor up and ran fuel through into a container. Happy days, it came through clean with no bits. so progress I hope? Cheers Mates for the advice and pics, it's helping no end to the "Jigsaw" of parts I've have. Cheers John C.

[John042]

No problem Zig, but more info' needed again. Am I losing the plot? I thought today I will attempt to mount the alternator since Marcus kindly sent detailed pics of his set up. Well as you can see from the attached I've got a similar bracket but will it fit, no. The alternator is resting on the steering shaft. There appears no way it would fit. Above the the steering shaft the bracket which bolts to the exhaust flange is about 3" to high if that makes sense. There appears no room to mount the alternator below the shaft. Are there different brackets which would bring the alternator higher up away from the steering shaft? Also I've included another pic of what looks like a tensioning idler pulley? Power steering perhaps? In amongst my gloom there's one problem solved, the oil pressure gauge is a direct reading one. Fitted to the block was a electrical sender which led me to assume there must be a connection somewhere. Spent ages looking for a cable which didn't exist! So one step forward I think.Thanks again for any help. John C.

[John042]

Thanks again Zig & Marcus. My alternator must sit above the steering shaft as there's no room under or at the side. So I have a collection of brackets so will keep fiddling. The large "U" shape bracket which bolts to the exhaust manifold doesn't line up at all so will try and mount the alternator without it. Yes it is a power steering model hopefully the mountings are still on the pump. Many thanks again for the detailed pics, at least I know where it should be mounted. Cheers John C.

[John042]

Sorry Marcus, yes I've got a rectangular air box, just waiting for the adaptor plate to fit onto the fuel distributor. Another problem solved? John C.

[John042]

I've given up for the day I've tried always to mount the alternator and come to the conclusion I've either got the wrong brackets or the alternator is not the right one. I've included some pics again but the position doesn't look right. For one thing the tensioning mount would have to be about 14" long to reach the timing cover. Swinging it down fouls the steering shaft. As for the "U" bracket to fit, no chance. Am I having a "Blond" moment or going senile or both? Matches and petrol spring to mind. Might as well destroy some more brain cells with beer, not a productive day as you can guess. Any clues please? Cheers John C.

[John042]

Thanks Zig for the vote of confidence. I've tried various combinations with the triangular bracket but it seems to only fit one way because of its shape and profile. Yours looks slightly different? Good idea with the tensioning bracket; it might give me a clue as to the other mounting. When I bought the car and was rebuilding the engine I did have a problem with the two timing cases trying to get a water pump to fit. The conclusion that "Tickover" came to was that one of the covers was from a 2.9 EFI engine. I've got a nagging thought that I might also have brackets from that cover? The "U" one being the biggest problem together with the triangular one. Would have they been different on the 2.9 engine? Many thanks for the pics mates. Cheers John C.

[John042]

Thanks Zig/Marcus. No I'm not sure I have the right top bracket that attaches to the exhaust manifold. My pas pump appears to have the correct bits, in fact was still connected to the rack on the near side of the car when I bought it. So that shouldn't present too many problems. It's just this bl**dy alternator mounting. What's puzzling is the lack of space for the alternator on that side with the steering drive to the rack so the alternator must sit quite high up on the engine? Cheers John042

[John042]

Hi again thanks to Zig, Marcus & RCK974X. Just had another look at the problem and taken more pics. As you can see, one shows a tension bracket roughly in place with the alternator resting on the steering shaft. The other pic shows how far away in height the bracket is from the exhaust manifold fixing. Obviously moving the alternator up further increases the distance of the top mounting bracket from the manifold. So logically the top bracket is not right and should be virtually straight to match the top alternator/manifold mountings? So were could I get the correct mounting bracket if that's possible? Again cheers Mates. John C.

[John042]

Don't know what happened to the other pic??

[John042]

Thanks Zig for your time. The PAS pump was still connected to the rack by its pipes lying in the engine bay on the nearside so I assume in its correct location (Passenger side)? Wires for alternator on the drivers side. I agree the input shaft from the PAS rack comes out at quite a steep angle making the connecting UJ from the steering shaft higher therefore fouling the movement of the alternator. This morning, I even went and looked at the rack to see if it could be repositioned, but no, the offside mounting is part of the racks casting. The top bracket has the same grey paint as the trianglular and slotted bar; the original colour of the timing front cover. So as you point out they must go together? The problem seems to be the height of the steering input shaft or even the size of the alternator. I've even measured a Mini alternator for comparison. Is it possible that a PAS rack has been fitted whilst the engine was removed? Can my rack be repositioned/replaced? More questions than answers I'm afraid. Frustrated or what.Cheers John C.

[John042]

Thanks Marcus, I will open the pic this evening. At work, firewalls etc. That old post, reference alternator brackets does again bring doubt as to my bracket being the wrong one? To clear the steering shaft it needs to be virtually straight onto the exhaust mounting.John C.

[John042]

Hi Marcus. Can't open the pics yet but are you saying that alternator and PAS pump were mounted on the same side? Just had a chat with Tickover & Capri Club and their consensus was that my top forged bracket is from a Capri and the Granada was the same. They were of the opinion that TVR made a special bracket? Going to have another session tonight and as some have suggested mount the alternator with the front triangular plate and tension bar and see where the unit sits. S**t this problem is growing legs,arms and teeth! John C