Team Winstanley's Race Sag

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I have decided to start this thread as alot of people have been asking how the car is coming along,

Here are a few pictures and a little bit of info about the car,

Danny will be running the car in Britcar next year with his brother Brett, along with any thing else we decide to run in from Sprints to endurance races, the car is being built as strong as we can and have considered this within the build.

Time for a update on Danny's race car , We decided to go Ls power for next year so we have been doing the conversion . The motor is a ls3 stroked and bored to 7.0l,aftermarket CNC ls7 style heads,bespoke cam,all steel internals, dry sump, Jenvey throttle bodies, competition clutch, face plated TKO600 cryo treated gearbox (built in the states by Liberty Gears),ally/ billet prop , Dodge viper diff,OS Giken LSD, Crome moly crown wheel and pinion , uprated drive shafts and cvs,BIG Brembos Endurance brakes,3 way nitrons. We have spent lots of time making it strong and hopefully reliable, all of the front chassis has had to be reinforced as it was flexing way to much enough to bend wishbone bolts ( it's never been crashed ) , race car bladed type antiroll bar fitted plated wishbones , 911 turbo dry sump tank, Emerald ecu, here's a few pics

Edited by cwin on Thursday 4th October 12:58

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Geoff38 said:

it's this much lighter at least .....

glad you got home ok,

The new front shed 50 kg,

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Guillotine said:

Coooo, that looks nice Craig.

Is that the same Sag or a new one?

Have you gone for a weight strip again too?
Britcar have a much more realistic/stable handicap system than you are used to methinks!

Hope to see it in DTEC at some point. Maybe in your development year 2013!

Andy

Same car Andy, should be around 980kg, it's about 8" wider than the last time we ran it 330/700/18" slicks on the rear 12" rims and 285 on 10" rim on the front,

Danny wants to join you guys in the DTEC next year for a few rounds as well.

Edited by cwin on Monday 5th November 19:18

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Guillotine said:

Now that should be fun!

Great to hear that you and Danny are still thinking about the Challenge.

Mikes come back this year, Jonny W. Perry's developing his Chevy Tuscan (I can vouch for the fact that that is damn quick personally) Darrens AJP Sag was scheduled at Rockers, but he had a problem in testing...and the AJP GTFs may well be out at Oulton!

so there's loads for you to play with when you come!

There are up to 10 more cars becoming available for DTEC in 2013, so lets hope you come along as a Flagship Tiv!

With that build, power and talent you'll be hard to beat, but then you always were!

It's still going to be road legal, i shall run the engine in and do lots of miles on the road to iron out all the niggly bits that sometimes crop up,DTEC sounds exciting, If Fred,Steve and Andy can make a few races it would be a good grid of modified TVRs ?

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The old speed six drysump tank has been turned into the water header tank,

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A few more from today

should be running in about 3 weeks, hey Craig ????????????//

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teamHOLDENracing said:

Looks stunning - obviously an awful lot of (quality) work gone into it.

However, independent TB's, more power than mine, longer wheelbase, wider track, wider rubber, better suspension geometry..... I hate it

Thanks Andy,

We hope to do plenty of testing over the winter months and hopefully join you guys next year for a few rounds in Britcar, whats your plans next year ?

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Here are the speeds in each gear at 7500 rpm using our diff ratio and gear ratios from the TKO 600 with a 26.5" slick.

1st 60.06
2nd 91.21
3rd 134.68
4th 172.39
5th 210.23

and a very useful gear calculator below,

http://www.tremec.com/performance/gear-calculators...

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looks like you could crawl inside and shelter from the rain in those inlets

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Exhaust , tank , carbon airboxes , and bonnet quick release/ crash protection

Holy st, i hope we don't need to use the last bit????????????

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Guillotine said:

It may just be big enough...but I don't think that fuel tanks legal there?

The cage will extend behind it and over it to mount the wing on.
So it will be within the cage.

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RedSpike66 said:

As Danny and his big bro will be driving, obviously no need for a rear view mirror !!!!!

We have a rear view camera with a LCD screen on the dash next to the data logger,

Back to Birmingham tomorrow for final finishing, should be testing in a few weeks (weather Permitting)

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Obiwonkeyblokey said:

Hi Craig

are you guys giong to the britcar Dinner tomorrow?
Owen

Hi Owen,

No, we are not going mate,

Have a nice time, don't drink tooooooooooo much

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Hopefully going back to Birmingham tomorrow for the final bits to be finished off.

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On the trailer and back to Birmingham tomorrow for a final finish before we go testing.

Ride hight and geo not done yet so looks a little high at the front, also the main splitter will sit 40mm lower than the one fitted to the front, the one you see in the pics comes off with the front, the other not yet fitted will stay on the chassis.

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Guillotine said:

Looks manacing Craig...

Is it legal to have blacked out rear...Marshals might want to see in? Think some funcups do...

...and is that Tank up as high as it looks? Several Tuscans (inc my old one - 70L) had tanks above the diff carrier and they didnt stick up that much. that much fuel that high up will have a major effect on COG and it will change quite alot as the fuel is used.

Just asking mate, I'm sure its cool.

Edited by Guillotine on Saturday 26th January 23:59

Hi Andy

Not sure re the comment about the rear being blacked out ? I am sure the Marshals will want to look in the back as they do every time we go to them prior a race,But it has obviously been made removemable as the original one was, also allot of cars are similar to this, the Exige cup is an example,





We feel the tank is mounted in the best place , it is in the exact place as it was last year, it is just longer and as a result holds 30 ltrs more than last year, as far as the COG goes we didn't have any handling issues last year and to win outright in the wet on slicks at Brands GP shows how well balanced it is, don't forget when you ask about COG that we have widened the footprint of the car by around 7" at the rear,it is a brand new ATL fuel cell in a aluminium container, we only put the fire wall in as a extra bit of safety as it didn't require one as far as Blue book goes,

The car will be going to see Stuart form Oulton Park soon who is a MSA/FIA scrutineer, if he says certain things need altering to pass we will do them.

Are you out next year mate?

Craig

Edited by cwin on Sunday 27th January 17:35

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RedSpike66 said:

Craig,
Penciled in any race dates yet ??

Hi Mike

We are hoping to have done enough testing to make the first round in Britcar at Donington on the 11th/13th April

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As you say, many are blacked out, but they are louved, so that you can see out and Marshals in. Wasn't thinking about scute so much as if (God forbid) it was upside down and buried in the tyres.
As for me...might be out at the end of the year...I fancy a big'un meself if I'm still here.
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Doesn't seem to be an issue with scruits or these wouldn't be able to race..





My pal has raced in fun cup and said it had no rear view in or our at all.

When you say something big, what are you thinking of mate???????