Purpose of Painted Sagaris Shells
Discussion
Hi guys,
I have thoroughly researched the archives and have come up with a number of pictures of the painted Sagaris shells sitting in the yard. Thank you to www.tvr-cerbera.net for the pictures I have posted as reference below.
I have a few questions that I hope some of the individuals who had worked at the factory can answer and provide complete clarity on. If you do not wish to post information, please private message me.
Purpose of Sagaris Shells
From Archives:
“The following cars had vynlester bodies and are the ones that had vents cut out and sat painted in the yard before being sold of as race car shells. Pics on here somewhere.”
So basically, the two main stories:
1. They were made for the TVR racing series. As per the wiki they are labeled as RT shells. Unfortunately, the program was cancelled.
2. They were pre-production models made out of a different composite of fiberglass than the production models?
For whatever reason they were not built into complete cars.
In either instance, why did the guys in body and paint spend the time to cut all of the vents out and apply final body prep and paint? If they were race cars, you would think they would have been just primed and sold to the teams, unless this wasn’t the entire truth?
Sale of the Shells
From what I can gather, all shells were sold off prior to bankruptcy. Where did they all go?
I can not locate any information in the TVR archives in regards to when people acquired them, or the prices that may have been paid for the shells at time of the sale.
Do we know when this sale took place, and the prices that were paid at that time?
Sole Jaguar F1 Green Sagaris Shell
As per the last picture I posted, (green sagaris on dolley) the only information I could find in the archive was from a forum member.
Quoted as “As someone has said, the painted shells (with the exception of the green one towards the end) are the pre-productions Sag's with the full slats through the wings (which got your feet wet apparantly)..... "
For those that were at the factory, was there any information about this specific shell internally?
Was the end intention of this shell to be the same as the others referenced further up?
Thank you for taking the time to shed some additional information
RT
I have thoroughly researched the archives and have come up with a number of pictures of the painted Sagaris shells sitting in the yard. Thank you to www.tvr-cerbera.net for the pictures I have posted as reference below.
I have a few questions that I hope some of the individuals who had worked at the factory can answer and provide complete clarity on. If you do not wish to post information, please private message me.
Purpose of Sagaris Shells
From Archives:
“The following cars had vynlester bodies and are the ones that had vents cut out and sat painted in the yard before being sold of as race car shells. Pics on here somewhere.”
So basically, the two main stories:
1. They were made for the TVR racing series. As per the wiki they are labeled as RT shells. Unfortunately, the program was cancelled.
2. They were pre-production models made out of a different composite of fiberglass than the production models?
For whatever reason they were not built into complete cars.
In either instance, why did the guys in body and paint spend the time to cut all of the vents out and apply final body prep and paint? If they were race cars, you would think they would have been just primed and sold to the teams, unless this wasn’t the entire truth?
Sale of the Shells
From what I can gather, all shells were sold off prior to bankruptcy. Where did they all go?
I can not locate any information in the TVR archives in regards to when people acquired them, or the prices that may have been paid for the shells at time of the sale.
Do we know when this sale took place, and the prices that were paid at that time?
Sole Jaguar F1 Green Sagaris Shell
As per the last picture I posted, (green sagaris on dolley) the only information I could find in the archive was from a forum member.
Quoted as “As someone has said, the painted shells (with the exception of the green one towards the end) are the pre-productions Sag's with the full slats through the wings (which got your feet wet apparantly)..... "
For those that were at the factory, was there any information about this specific shell internally?
Was the end intention of this shell to be the same as the others referenced further up?
Thank you for taking the time to shed some additional information
RT
Edited by RTSracing on Tuesday 2nd August 04:21
Edited by RTSracing on Wednesday 19th October 03:14
Edited by RTSracing on Saturday 7th January 20:42
From what I can gather, other than the two red and the one f1 green shell, the rest were sold off as part of bankruptcy auction.
I can not locate any information in the TVR archives in regards to when the auction took place, or the prices that may have been paid for the shells at time of the sale.
Do we know when this sale took place Date wise (2008, 2011?), and the prices that were paid at that time?
Was anyone at the bankruptcy auction?
I can not locate any information in the TVR archives in regards to when the auction took place, or the prices that may have been paid for the shells at time of the sale.
Do we know when this sale took place Date wise (2008, 2011?), and the prices that were paid at that time?
Was anyone at the bankruptcy auction?
Edited by RTSracing on Saturday 7th January 20:44
- UPDATED*
1. Red/Yellow Stripe - finished at factory - as referenced above. Owner (TVRTUSCANS)
2. Light Green - Bought at bankruptcy. Imported into USA and put in storage locker in Michigan for a number of years. Imported back to the UK in 2013. Believed to be in Italy.
3. Orange - Traded hands in 2015.
4. Silver - ? Possible Race Car
5. Peachy Red - ? Demonstration mule same colour?
6. Racing Red - Bought prior to factory closure. see plasticman post above. Is Now Silver (pictured). Roadgoing?
7. Burgandy Red - Bought prior to factory closure. see plasticman post above.
8. Yellow - ? Possible Race Car.
9. F1 Racing Green - Bought prior to factory closure. In Canada. Starting a build.
Any further information you have is great.
Dates, further information etc. Nothing is useless.
I was searching through the archives and found the red (now silver shell). It had the plate molded into the front. (attached)
I have quite a few pictures that I have collected from multiple sources. Thank you to those responsible for taking them.
Edited by RTSracing on Monday 9th January 22:10
More information pulled from the Sagaris #7 thread:
The car pictured above is the MPH '03 car. This car was a T350 shell with a Sagaris prototype front and back bonded to it. That car was dismantled for production patterns in order to become the Sagaris body master from which moulds were taken. It was destroyed in early'04
First out of the moulds was a silver pre-production car which got written off and has since been rebuilt and shipped to Switzerland sitting in somebody's collection.
The next out was the pre-production 'Candy' car
The next out of the mould was the "R/T Sagaris" PJ54 WNL. TVR had decided to start a Sagaris race series and all the shells were all cast with cut out vents etc etc, then at the last minute the series was cancelled. WNL was already pretty much built though (as the intended showcase), so they finished it and then displayed it around the dealers as a show car as to what a race Sag would have looked like.
The next out was a pre-production black car now owned by Dom at TVR Power.
The next two cars out of the mould were the first 'proper' cars which ended up as the press cars (Chem Orange PN05 OUL & Blue PN05 OUX).
The next car out was purple press car (PF05 AMO).
The next cars, as far as I know were the first customer cars.
HTH
kmpowell said:
The car pictured above is the MPH '03 car. This car was a T350 shell with a Sagaris prototype front and back bonded to it. That car was dismantled for production patterns in order to become the Sagaris body master from which moulds were taken. It was destroyed in early'04
First out of the moulds was a silver pre-production car which got written off and has since been rebuilt and shipped to Switzerland sitting in somebody's collection.
The next out was the pre-production 'Candy' car
The next out of the mould was the "R/T Sagaris" PJ54 WNL. TVR had decided to start a Sagaris race series and all the shells were all cast with cut out vents etc etc, then at the last minute the series was cancelled. WNL was already pretty much built though (as the intended showcase), so they finished it and then displayed it around the dealers as a show car as to what a race Sag would have looked like.
The next out was a pre-production black car now owned by Dom at TVR Power.
The next two cars out of the mould were the first 'proper' cars which ended up as the press cars (Chem Orange PN05 OUL & Blue PN05 OUX).
The next car out was purple press car (PF05 AMO).
The next cars, as far as I know were the first customer cars.
HTH
Appears to be the first set of shells.
Light green Sagaris in storage locker in Michigan.
Similar colour mule to one shell pictured.
Another forum members project car (posted in his build thread). Could be one of these shells.
In the facebook group there was an owner who posted a few pictures of his purple sagaris that appears to be one of these shells. See if he chimes in and posts some pictures on PH.
Light green Sagaris in storage locker in Michigan.
Similar colour mule to one shell pictured.
Another forum members project car (posted in his build thread). Could be one of these shells.
In the facebook group there was an owner who posted a few pictures of his purple sagaris that appears to be one of these shells. See if he chimes in and posts some pictures on PH.
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