Worst outrigger ever? + bodylift pics

Worst outrigger ever? + bodylift pics

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dbv8

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Saturday 28th November 2009
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Finally lifted the body with 2 winches....





The offside outrigger fell off before the lift!....





The nearside isnt much better....





Ready for some much needed attention.....



dbv8

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Saturday 28th November 2009
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swanny71 said:


biggrin
laugh
Thats brilliant!

My garage is bigger than it looks guys. I can open the door plenty enough to get in and out.
I do want to extend it over the yard though. Just wish i had already done it this year!

dbv8

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Sunday 29th November 2009
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RedSpike66 said:
Absolutely flabbergasted at the state of those outriggers!!!
Out of interest, when did it last pass an MOT? Surely not in the last 12 months!!!!
Actually passed its last MoT about 18 months ago but has endured many 130 mile trips to and from York in all weathers.
Also dont forget i live in Cumbria which is underwater most of the year.

dbv8

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Monday 30th November 2009
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TVR653X said:
OK, well I'm just repeating what I was told at a very well known TVR garage in North Yorkshire. What I was told has obviously been proved right, as Derek's car has effectively had no driver's side outrigger, and he hasn't crashed and died, even when putting a ton of nitrous through it.
I know what your saying.
Dont let these bullies get to you.
The outriggers are structural however in that they help hold the body in place and provide the seatbelt points.
I wasnt very well protected in that department for a long time which is a little worrying if you care about such things.

dbv8

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Monday 30th November 2009
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TVR_owner said:
If lesser utilised parts of my chassis looked that bad, I would be wondering about part of the chassis that does the bulk of the work..

Corrosion happens from both sides.
Most is solid. The outriggers are completely shot.
The rear suspension arms and antiroll bar points need attention tho

dbv8

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Monday 30th November 2009
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TVR_owner said:
dbv8 said:
TVR_owner said:
If lesser utilised parts of my chassis looked that bad, I would be wondering about part of the chassis that does the bulk of the work..

Corrosion happens from both sides.
Most is solid. The outriggers are completely shot.
The rear suspension arms and antiroll bar points need attention tho
Are you sure?? Is it not worth getting some random wall thickness checks done - do you know any NDT guys??


Im pretty sure its not all bad.
The chassis is getting stripped and is going to an engineering workshop for the repairs and will be checked properly.
It will come back stronger than when it was built originally

dbv8

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Sunday 6th December 2009
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This weekends progress,
looking at its worst i think... onwards and upwards...


dbv8

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Monday 7th December 2009
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HRG said:
TVR_owner said:
dbv8 said:
TVR_owner said:
If lesser utilised parts of my chassis looked that bad, I would be wondering about part of the chassis that does the bulk of the work..

Corrosion happens from both sides.
Most is solid. The outriggers are completely shot.
The rear suspension arms and antiroll bar points need attention tho
Are you sure?? Is it not worth getting some random wall thickness checks done - do you know any NDT guys??
They NEVER rust from the inside out as they're sealed.
What about water ingress due to porous welds?
Its another theory

dbv8

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Thursday 25th February 2010
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Talk about taking a while rolleyes

Ive just had word my chassis is finished and will be completely shotblast on Monday ready for me to paint with the POR15.
My new job has been put back a week so i have a few days i can dedicate to start putting it all back together.
I will post some pics, maybe Tuesday

dbv8

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Thursday 25th February 2010
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Powdercoating would be nice but i have nowhere local that will do it.
Also as im off work next week i really need to use the time to make progress on my car as i hope to be racing at the latest on May 2nd but also want to get the car to Chatsworth.
I do have faith in the POR15 however and the chassis should be fully painted by Wednesday so i can start bolting parts back on.

dbv8

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Thursday 25th February 2010
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FlipFlopGriff said:
Derek,
It takes a long time to dry so bear that in mind.
FFG
Hopefully it will be dry by Chatsworth laugh

I intend to leave a heater on in the garage so that should cut the cure time a bit.

dbv8

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Thursday 25th February 2010
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CHGRIFF said:
The outriggers are not cosmetic, and support the outmost body mounting points. As mentioned previously, they offer little towards the overall strength and torsional stiffness of the chassis, thats why when driving with rotten parts your not aware of any handlind differences. Even when replaced with new parts there will be little improvement to vehicle handling. They are an essential item if you want to have a better chance of surviving a high speed front quarter impact. On impact the wishbones give and the wheels are pushed rearwards towards and into the front outrigger lateral support tubes. These are very substantial, absorbe most of the energy and prevent the wheel from penetrating the GRP bodywork which would otherwise increase the risk of injury to the occupents, especially in the foot area. These are the worst I have seen, being non existent. It is essential the outriggers are in good condition for reasons explained and replaced asap when severe corrosion is apparent. Dont find out the outriggers were in poor shape after the accident. AS fordriving without them, thats a definate NO.
I never realised how bad they were until i did the body lift. The triangulated sections to the main chassis were fairly sound but with the outside tubes rotted through did make the car unsafe in the event of an accident.
We should carefully inspect such things more thoroughly and regularly than the MoT

dbv8

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Thursday 25th February 2010
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Barreti said:
Have a quick read of the label on the POR15 tin dbv8 - I'm sure you only have a window of something like 8-16hrs when you can apply the 2nd coat if you are putting on 2 coats.
It caught me out a bit when I did mine and made for a very long day.
I will check thanks.
i thought you could add a second coat anytime along with topcoats.
I think its best to use the whole tin if you can as the paint will go off quickly even in the tin. Or you place what you need in another container then cling film over the paint in the tin so its not in contact with air.

I also have the silver topcoat to finish the job off.

dbv8

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Friday 5th March 2010
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Due to a 2 week gap between contracts im starting to make a little progress.
Back from the fabricators and shotblasters.....



POR15 basecoat...



POR15 Stirling silver...


dbv8

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Friday 5th March 2010
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Minimum use of axle stands means less unpainted spots for later.
i turned the chassis over myself today and crushed a finger in the progress.
I am also waiting for a double hernia operation from when i lifted the chassis on my own on to the roof of my peugeot!

It better be worth it!

dbv8

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Friday 5th March 2010
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Barreti said:
dbv8 said:
I am also waiting for a double hernia operation from when i lifted the chassis on my own on to the roof of my peugeot!
Jesus H Christ eek

hehe
Do you want to see a picture?

dbv8

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Friday 5th March 2010
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Sorry i havent got 1 of the hernias

dbv8

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Saturday 6th March 2010
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Its brushed on and the finish looks much better in the pic i have to admit but im happy enough with it.
I plan to add extra heat shielding before putting the engine back.

dbv8

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Thursday 11th March 2010
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Its coming together slowly....







This doesnt look right however.... The carrier is pushed forward into the upper wishbone???



Im not sure where the Nitron reservoir should be located yet either???


dbv8

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Thursday 11th March 2010
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hiltonig said:
yes and why did you go for those Nitrons ???, unless your tracking the car ? The standard ones are fine, also you will have to set the heights
I need to fine tune the low speed damping to help the perfect launch at the drag strip. Im hoping the extra expense will pay off. As they say... '1 tenth at 60 foot is worth 3 tenths at the 1/4'