Only just heard of sealant, why ever use wax again?

[EazyDuz]

Can someone explain why I should be applying wax every few weeks when I can get a product like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dodo-Juice-Future-Armour...

Which does this, I wouldn't even need to buy a separate rain repellent again either:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlo-sQK00kM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jet0nt6vVzg

Supposedly lasts for months instead of weeks, and if you must you can apply wax on top of it.

What are the downsides?

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Tony Starks said:

Why use that, when you can use a chemical & marr resistant coating like Max Protect UNC-R that'll last 2 or 3 years.

Because you cant remove that without sanding the panel, and you might want to remove it to clay or try another product within that time.

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Blue Mikey said:

If you are having to re-apply wax "every few weeks" then either you're not applying it correctly or it's a poor quality wax.

I applied two coats of Dodo Supernatural Hybrid in September and the at still beads amazingly after a quick wash.

In this harsh weather no caranuba wax will last more than a few weeks, usually a month, before performance decreases.

[EazyDuz]

Tony Starks said:

Sadly, you couldn't be more wrong.

nope

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Tony Starks said:

Then you need to look at application techniques, I used to get months out of waxes. Now I have a coating I get years and can use a strong shampoo to bring it back if it gets clogged.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?40105-Longevity-of-Carnauba-Wax#aUpP11i6MsGMPjX3.97

Unless you're using a synthetic wax, no normal wax lasts for months unless its summer with little to no rain. Absolutely no way you're getting years out of a natural wax, maybe you've just forgotten what properly protected paint looks like

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swisstoni said:

Looked at the fancy stuff a couple of years ago (may have improved since) and if you didn't have a garage to do it in - forget it.
Long curing time, temperature sensitive, had to be kept dry for 24hrs and big hassle if you apply it wrong and had to remove.

Hope things have got better but the nearest I've got to the nano stuff is Gtechniq C2, which is dead easy.

Look at Soft99 wax, thats my next wax. Its synthetic but the results are just incredible and a tin will last years.

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Tony Starks said:

I know people who had 2 years out of 7 coats of Zymol Vintage, when its properly maintained. You need to cut out the harsh cleaners and use the recommended maintenance sprays after a wash. And properly protected paint has a coating on it, as nothing protects like a coating.

But hey what do I know.

Not a lot really. Maybe a show car that lives in the garage yea but to a daily driver, wax just doesnt last. Nothing harsh about Gold Class, its been proven not to remove any wax or sealant.

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scratcher_ said:

Here's my car this morning.
ODK Concours wax - applied back in November.
Only maintained with a shampoo, no quick detailer or drying aids. Last washed 3 weeks ago.

That contains nut oils and polymers, its not just a carnauba wax. Try something like PB Natty Blue and it wont last more than a few weeks.

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Tony Starks said:

Come on, people have offered you loads of ideas on how to make a wax last longer and that they are in actualality (sp) pretty good at protecting paint through the winter.

You should maybe learn a bit more about waxes as they all contain oils and silicones, even Nattys Blue.

And as for sealants, I've had 18 months out of Polish Angel Master Sealant as it was properly maintained.

They do to an extent but the point im making is that a synthetic wax or sealant will last much longer. So i've ordered some Soft99 Fusso Coat after seeing how popular it is on various forums.

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Tony Starks said:

The trouble is, anyone with half a brain would realise that if a whole load of internet strangers suggest one thing could be causing a problem. That maybe you'd think they might be on to something. (unless you go on BB.com Misc, then never take any advice what so ever!).

Application technique is circular motion, leave til hazed, buff off.
Always get an incredible shine, but never lasts very long in harsh winter. Gold Class shampoo is highly rated. If you have some evidence proving the chemicals in Gold Class remove wax i'll take you seriously. Otherwise it's just false information and thus, your opinion, not facts.

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AshBurrows said:

What would your recommendation be? I want something that'll last. Be as shiny as is possible and relatively easy to apply. I'm not a big detailing nerd just want the car to look shiny haha.

Fusso is a mid range shine, its highly rated for its water repelling properties and long lasting. Nothing stopping you putting a glaze on first and sealing it with Fusso though