How to cure faded red paint

[nlldavies]

Can anyone advise me on a problem with a car's finish please?

My Dad purchased a brand new Vauxhall Vectra in 2003 in Red. Within months of owning it the paint seems to have gone white on various places on the surface. He took it back to the dealership a few times, but they fobbed him off.

My Dad saved hard for a new car and I feel bad that its gone this way for him. I've tried Mer polish on a small part of the bonnet and it has helped a bit, but the whiteness is stil evident. How can I tackle this .. I'm up for putting some elbow grease in myself or even funding a specialist if that would be best.

Cheers

[nlldavies]

I've just emailed my dad to get a couple of pictures emailed to me.

Thanks

[nlldavies]

Some good tips there.

Still waiting for my dad to send me pictures.

The paintwork does look like its oxidising on the surface but I fear after doing a quick test area with Mer that the whiteness may be deeper in the paint ... that or I didn't get enough pressure on the job.

I'll try and get the pictures from him this evening.

[nlldavies]

Just got a picture. Not sure if you'll see what you want in it though, but you can see the white if you look carefully as well as the small area that is a bit more polished still showing white.

Sorry if it is too big as I have no idea how to resize in MSPAINT, checked the rules on image size and couldn't find any.

Anyway here it is, obvously started raining when he took it.




As for questions on detergent, I'm afarid the answer to that is what ever they use in the local car wash mostly with the odd wash at home with "any brand" of car detergent.

N

Edited by nlldavies on Tuesday 14th April 18:04

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kds keltec said:

Iain328 said:

nlldavies said:

Just got a picture. Not sure if you'll see what you want in it though, but you can see the white if you look carefully as well as the small area that is a bit more polished still showing white.

Sorry if it is too big as I have no idea how to resize in MSPAINT, checked the rules on image size and couldn't find any.

Anyway here it is, obvously started raining when he took it.




As for questions on detergent, I'm afarid the answer to that is what ever they use in the local car wash mostly with the odd wash at home with "any brand" of car detergent.

N

The car wash would be a candidate to be using something nasty.

Since its a fairly modern car it ought to have a clearcoat on it - which meeans its that's gone dull, not the red underneath.

The best stuff I've ever seen for bring back lifeless paintwork is probably Zymol HD cleanse - available on line from any number of places. If you use it you need to wax the paint properly afterwards though because the HD will clean everything off the paint.
Having said that its also not caustic or abrasive so it doesn't take any paint away, just whatever is on it, leaving clean paintwork that then needs to be protected with something. I think there are some oils in it that "feed" the paintwork as well which is what brings it back to life.

I would very surprised to find that the car in question has been clear coated , Vauxhalls were very late on clear coating reds, (Had a EVO 8 in red for detail that still colour only no top coat which is much newer then the car in the picture).

From the picture i would say that PJS is right , it needs cutting back to remove the oxidised layer of dead paint , then seal the paint to slow down the problem returning by using a product like Auto Balm wax/sealent .

There are all types of products with light cut , fillers , oils , etc that will make a slight improvement by hand , but this really needs cutting bck using the machine method for it to look its best !

By clear coat I assume this is laquere you are talking about? If it is I think I'm quite sure after looking at it that it hasn't got clear coat.

I'm sure that I have taken the top coat of oxidised paint off it on the test patch and the whiteness appears to be deeper in the paint. Maybe I didn't give it enough attention or Mer is not quite up to the job. I'll try on eof the products listd here and see how I get on.

Thanks to everyone for the advice so far.

N