Alfa Romeo 1750 GTV Bertone
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Classics dwarfed by moderns:
20 years between the 1750 GTV and the AWD 155 Q4. The 159 is even bigger.
I felt at home in the Bertone. It is a small car but for two is's just perfect. Performance is enough to put a million smiles on your face: 0-60 in 9 secs and 190 kmh. We respected the speedlimits. Soundbyte is 60s DOHC twin double Weber Bologna style: oh yes sir.
This 1971 car has the closed bonnet which I prefer. The stepnose cars are the ones with the higher pricetag. Expect 20K for a sorted car.
Early in the morning and at speed, shot from the Q4. The 1750 is every inch a mini-GT. It oozes a million pounds of class and the road presence is phenomenal.
Owners David and Lut having fun here. David was so kind to share his Bertone, Q4 and Spider with 4 friends for a day trip to and fro Holland. And back to Belgium.
Tires uprated from 155 to 185: no PAS so tight turns are challenging! The beautifull styled Bertone is at home at swoopy roads and highways. Roundabouts . . . errr, easy does it.
Next: rain!
20 years between the 1750 GTV and the AWD 155 Q4. The 159 is even bigger.
I felt at home in the Bertone. It is a small car but for two is's just perfect. Performance is enough to put a million smiles on your face: 0-60 in 9 secs and 190 kmh. We respected the speedlimits. Soundbyte is 60s DOHC twin double Weber Bologna style: oh yes sir.
This 1971 car has the closed bonnet which I prefer. The stepnose cars are the ones with the higher pricetag. Expect 20K for a sorted car.
Early in the morning and at speed, shot from the Q4. The 1750 is every inch a mini-GT. It oozes a million pounds of class and the road presence is phenomenal.
Owners David and Lut having fun here. David was so kind to share his Bertone, Q4 and Spider with 4 friends for a day trip to and fro Holland. And back to Belgium.
Tires uprated from 155 to 185: no PAS so tight turns are challenging! The beautifull styled Bertone is at home at swoopy roads and highways. Roundabouts . . . errr, easy does it.
Next: rain!
Nice, how they compare to the 70s models?
On with the show:
"Come back for an extra bonus." The bonus is to drive this thing of beauty!
There isn't an angle to find where the Bertone doesn't look the absolute dogs bits.
Famous Biscione, the emblem of the House of Visconti, rulers of Milan in the 14th century.
On the left is a red cross on a white field, the emblem of Milan, which designer Romano Cattaneo had seen on the door of the Castello Sforzesco.
Fellow Alfisti Els & Pieter had the time of their lives.
On with the show:
"Come back for an extra bonus." The bonus is to drive this thing of beauty!
There isn't an angle to find where the Bertone doesn't look the absolute dogs bits.
Famous Biscione, the emblem of the House of Visconti, rulers of Milan in the 14th century.
On the left is a red cross on a white field, the emblem of Milan, which designer Romano Cattaneo had seen on the door of the Castello Sforzesco.
Fellow Alfisti Els & Pieter had the time of their lives.
The slim pillars provide for a spacious feel when inside and with an incredible surround view.
As a kid - in the mid 70s - I lusted after 3 cars: the TR6, the Jaguar XJ6 and the GTV Bertone Alfa.
Classic low down torque and hig end power: the dohc 1.8 is every inch an Italian gem.
It's time to go!
Happy faces day.
Cheib: I dunno about your experience with older cars . . . but 40+ years Alfas are pretty much worked on and should be far from the state as they left Milano. Every car has its own character to match any drivers ambition.
It so much depends on the tires and suspension setup, width of tires, state of the mechanics in general, tune of the engine.
Davids 'machinas' are not garage queens but sure drivers cars. They are picked and bought to GO. And so they do.
The GTV was aquired 5 weeks before this run and there's a lot of work to be done to get it proper. Already it is a very fine car and a great basis to make it a superb car. It helps that David knows what he's doing, knows his DIY and has the specialists for the specialists jobbies. The GTV will be a gem in the near future.
I met the Spider 3 years ago and driving it last week: it has transformed into a wonderfull mini GT and there are no wishes on my list to improve it, other than maybe a few cosmetic ones. But hey, who cares for aesthetics eh?
I believe Alfaholics are the guys to talk to when it comes to 60s Alfas.
It so much depends on the tires and suspension setup, width of tires, state of the mechanics in general, tune of the engine.
Davids 'machinas' are not garage queens but sure drivers cars. They are picked and bought to GO. And so they do.
The GTV was aquired 5 weeks before this run and there's a lot of work to be done to get it proper. Already it is a very fine car and a great basis to make it a superb car. It helps that David knows what he's doing, knows his DIY and has the specialists for the specialists jobbies. The GTV will be a gem in the near future.
I met the Spider 3 years ago and driving it last week: it has transformed into a wonderfull mini GT and there are no wishes on my list to improve it, other than maybe a few cosmetic ones. But hey, who cares for aesthetics eh?
I believe Alfaholics are the guys to talk to when it comes to 60s Alfas.
600 kms in a 70s Alfa tiring? Not really. The seats are comfy, the cabin offers space and the intoxicating sound of the Weber-fed four never gets boring over drone-ish.
Surround sight: no blind corners and excellent view all round.
If there ever was a good looking Alfa it's gotta be this one: from 1963–1977 44,269 1750 GTVs (105/115 Series Coupe: 224.000 total) were produced.
Introduced in 1968 the 1750 GTV combined all the 105/115 Series Coupe good features. The similar 1.3 and 1.6 models were called Junior.
Both Spider (Duetto, Codatronca, this is the Aerodinamica) and GTV basically share the same mechanics. The GTV is more sporty and the Spider more relaxing to drive. In 1971 the 2 litre - for both cars - was introduced and came with Spica fuel injection. These cars were for the US market only. The fuel injection met US emmision regulations and added a more suitable bottom end in the rev range. For Europe the cars were offered with the big carbs. The Aerodinamica Spider comes with the EFI and I must say . . . it is easier to drive and is a wonderfull combination with the excellent - but manly - 5 speed.
Lottery . . . We'd be happy if this were our dreamgarage.
Maybe also check the Q4 topic: http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
A worthwhile read about 'modifying' the Bertone:
http://www.alfaholics.com/2010/07/retro-cars-modif...
So, a standard 75 Twin Spark 2 litre and you're done. Find a written off 75 and pick off the bits to use.
Sounds like a jobbie buth as Alfaholics say: it's more or less plug and play.
Just my 2 pence.
http://www.alfaholics.com/2010/07/retro-cars-modif...
So, a standard 75 Twin Spark 2 litre and you're done. Find a written off 75 and pick off the bits to use.
Sounds like a jobbie buth as Alfaholics say: it's more or less plug and play.
Just my 2 pence.
We spotted these nice classic Alfas last weekend:
New Bertone and the original letter box 1.6 car. Nice and in fast road spec.
Alfa Giulia 1300 TI. The lively and quick Giulia's were produced from 1962 to 1978. The 1300 TI is an early 70s car and has the 105-series engine which is sportier: 90 brake instead of 80 for the 101 engine.
As a kid I was fascinated by the awkward tail. And still I dunno if I like it or not. Often I get destracted by the barking pipe.
The 1.3 was also used in the Junior. Performance was up to par with bigger equipped sports cars. Well over 100 mph and a 0-60 in under 12 secs where ace numbers back in the day.
De Haar castle area is a splendid location for any event. The superb weather worked a treat and made the Bertones look like a million Dollars.
Totally sorted Giulia: note the sump protection!
When some kid was revving the nuts off the 4C (right) I drooled over this lovely 2 litre.
Lovely stuff.
Feel free to post your Junior, Bertone and GTV stuff.
New Bertone and the original letter box 1.6 car. Nice and in fast road spec.
Alfa Giulia 1300 TI. The lively and quick Giulia's were produced from 1962 to 1978. The 1300 TI is an early 70s car and has the 105-series engine which is sportier: 90 brake instead of 80 for the 101 engine.
As a kid I was fascinated by the awkward tail. And still I dunno if I like it or not. Often I get destracted by the barking pipe.
The 1.3 was also used in the Junior. Performance was up to par with bigger equipped sports cars. Well over 100 mph and a 0-60 in under 12 secs where ace numbers back in the day.
De Haar castle area is a splendid location for any event. The superb weather worked a treat and made the Bertones look like a million Dollars.
Totally sorted Giulia: note the sump protection!
When some kid was revving the nuts off the 4C (right) I drooled over this lovely 2 litre.
Lovely stuff.
Feel free to post your Junior, Bertone and GTV stuff.
My favorite colour for the Bertone is rare: lavender. Then the typical period Alfa green and mustard yellow.
Liking this grey as well.
Or bright yellow:
The lighter colours help the Bertone looking light and agile.
Red is cool though:
IMO the dark blue and black colours hide the beauty of the Giugiaro shape.
An Alfaholics car: I saw a handfull Convertibles on the net. But I do prefer the original Spider (tipo 2 or 3) and see the Bertones as a coupe.
Wiki: A limited production (1000 units) convertible was a modification from the standard car by Touring of Milan, offered as a catalogue model by Alfa Romeo called the Giulia Sprint GTC.
About modding a series 105:
http://www.alfaholics.com/2010/07/retro-cars-modif...
A 75 engine sounds good to me.
Wiki: A limited production (1000 units) convertible was a modification from the standard car by Touring of Milan, offered as a catalogue model by Alfa Romeo called the Giulia Sprint GTC.
About modding a series 105:
http://www.alfaholics.com/2010/07/retro-cars-modif...
A 75 engine sounds good to me.
I've driven both:
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
And I can say the Bertone is less refined but more fun to drive. The Fulvia - I drove a 1.3 S - has a super smooth engine and the car feels very relaxed. More GT-ish compared to the rallyfeel that is in the Bertone. Just my two pence.
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
And I can say the Bertone is less refined but more fun to drive. The Fulvia - I drove a 1.3 S - has a super smooth engine and the car feels very relaxed. More GT-ish compared to the rallyfeel that is in the Bertone. Just my two pence.
sunbeam alpine said:
The Fulvia is also on my to-buy list. The only ones I see for sale are either very expensive or optimistically-priced wrecks. I'm sure I'll find one eventually!
Dryden: I guess these cars have been around for 40-something years and have been set up to owners pref specs. Each have become different cgaracters. The Fulvia used to be a rally champ so yes, I can imagine your reply. The GTV feels more robust to me and the torquey engine has that raunchy bite I prefer in a 60s car. The Fulvia felt more feminine.David: There are loads of Fulvia's in DIY-mode in the classifieds. IMO you better look away. Lancia used to be an engineers car brand and the tech used is exquisite and original thought out. Alfa used more down to earth - common sense - tech in their cars. I'm not a mechanic but I can only imagine the Alfa's to be easier to work on. Am I right?
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