Turning 40 - thinking ahead

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LooneyTunes

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Friday 9th December 2022
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Had a quick search and looked at DVLA site and I can’t find a definitive answer, but hoping someone here will be able to help.

One of my cars turns 40 in mid-2023, current MOT and tax runs out in December 2023.

dvla said:
If your vehicle was built before 1 January 1982, you can stop paying vehicle tax from 1 April 2022.
If I roll this forward, the tax exemption for a 1983 registered vehicle (I.e. “before 1 Jan 2024) will kick in from 1st April 2024.

The V112 MOT exemption form seems to simply be a case of declaring that the vehicle was manufactured more than 40 years ago (which I have the evidence to support) with no annual date cut-offs. When it hits 40, it’s eligible.

That leads me to believe that when I come to Dec 2023, I’ll need to re-tax the vehicle (and will get a refund for the period Dec 2023-April 2024) but will not necessarily need an MOT.

Does anyone know if the absence of an MOT at that point causes a problem/makes things inconvenient? If so, I’m tempted to SORN in April 2023 and then re-tax shortly after whilst the MOT is current, rolling the tax round to the point at which it is exempt.

In all likelihood I’ll keep MOTing the vehicle as a way to get an extra set of eyes over it/provide an independent log of basic condition and mileage but don’t want to run up against issues if we get a really miserable December with roads covered in salt.

LooneyTunes

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Friday 9th December 2022
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Thanks for taking a shot at it.

I’m keen to not have to SORN for an extended period, and the timeline is more like this:

October 23, vehicle turns 40
Dec 23, current MOT runs out, tax runs out
April 24, vehicle becomes tax exempt

What I’m trying to find out is whether:
1) I’ll be able to buy vehicle tax in Dec to cover the remaining period (recognising that I’ll need to buy 6/12 months and get a refund) if the MOT isn’t renewed in advance; or
2) I can work around this by SORNing briefly in early-mid 2023 in order to pay for a fresh 12 months road tax well in advance of the MOT expiring.

It’s not the most common situation so I don’t know whether DVLA’s systems/the post office will get confused if I try to buy tax for a vehicle that is MOT exempt but not yet transitioned to historic taxation status. In all likelihood I’ll MOT earlier in the year but don’t want to get caught out if I get distracted by other things.

LooneyTunes

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Friday 9th December 2022
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Thanks guys.

Just to be on the safe side, I’ll probably knock it onto SORN for a week or two (whatever the minimum period is) when I start taxing the others for the summer so that I can buy tax all the way through to when it becomes eligible for Historic. Will give me the option to use in spring if the weather’s good without having to run the risk of the post office getting muddled up by it if there isn’t an MOT in place.

LooneyTunes

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Wednesday 17th April
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Well, assuming DVLA don’t throw any issues, that was remarkably straightforward.

Took the v5 into the local post office, along with heritage certificate to show date of manufacture and MoT exemption self-certification form, and it seems like no supporting evidence is needed for age (and no other forms need to be filled out).

Receipt for £0.00 VED and the v5 sent by the post office for updating. Spent more time on the queue than for them to actually process it all.

LooneyTunes

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Doofus said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
You can't change the status to Historic online. It has to go to a PO.
I did mine online about four years ago. Presumalby it's changed since, then.
Must have changed and has to be via PO (unless the online official instructions are wrong and there's some way to get it done without).