Komotec anyone?
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Scuffers not everyone wants to bin a perfectly good toyota engine for a honda engine out of some pimpled youth's crashed hatchback.
My engine has only done 5000 miles to date, so I'm interested in uprating it but not beyond the capability of the gearbox, you seem to assume everyone wants 320bhp. In a car weighing 840kgs, 250bhp or thereabouts would be plenty and it also means not having to shell out for lots of other mods like a new gearbox, uprated brakes etc.
And besides I'm very happy with the toyota engine. As far as 1.8s go it's up there with the very best of them (and designed by Yamaha too for badge snobs).
I don't need to win a GT race, I just want to put a few manners on a boxster S!
My engine has only done 5000 miles to date, so I'm interested in uprating it but not beyond the capability of the gearbox, you seem to assume everyone wants 320bhp. In a car weighing 840kgs, 250bhp or thereabouts would be plenty and it also means not having to shell out for lots of other mods like a new gearbox, uprated brakes etc.
And besides I'm very happy with the toyota engine. As far as 1.8s go it's up there with the very best of them (and designed by Yamaha too for badge snobs).
I don't need to win a GT race, I just want to put a few manners on a boxster S!
It would appear that the factory kit with an aftermarket chargecooler might be the best option. I'm surprised. Am I right in saying fitting a chargecooler requires no change in the ecu map? The theory being all it does is make the car drive like it does on a cold day. I'm also aware that one of the key benefits of the chargecooler is that it helps maintain power as well as increase it.
On the subject of chargecoolers, which is the best one out there for the Elise? As already mentioned my Sportsracer has '07 model year features such as drive by wire throttle and traction control.
On the subject of chargecoolers, which is the best one out there for the Elise? As already mentioned my Sportsracer has '07 model year features such as drive by wire throttle and traction control.
As it happens the Sportsracer is drive by wire and introduced the 2006 model year upgrades.
No crime in not knowing that though!
Many thanks for the informed opinions. However they aggregate into a compelling argument for the Factory supercharger kit, I saw now on offer somewhere for £1000 off.
Still can't decide whether to go for it or not as I'm one of the few that loves the n/a engines power delivery! For me the more linear delivery of all but the 260 spec engine feel a little flat. Effective but a bit lacking the lunacy of the n/a car's manic lunge to the cutout.
No crime in not knowing that though!
Many thanks for the informed opinions. However they aggregate into a compelling argument for the Factory supercharger kit, I saw now on offer somewhere for £1000 off.
Still can't decide whether to go for it or not as I'm one of the few that loves the n/a engines power delivery! For me the more linear delivery of all but the 260 spec engine feel a little flat. Effective but a bit lacking the lunacy of the n/a car's manic lunge to the cutout.
Scuffers said:
Asides the factory SC kit, the big issue with *all* the after market ones is ECU related, apart from Charlie's ECU mapping (and he appears to have disappeared now?), eveybody else is either using mix-match Lotus calibrations (ie. Komotec) that are best fit as opposed to calibrated for the install, or some bodgetastic pigg-back solution.
this problem will only be 100% addressed when there is a fully featured plug-play ECU replacement (or somebody is brave enough to encure the wrath of Lotus and re-map the Lotus ECU).
A compelling argument in favour of the factory kit if ever there was one.this problem will only be 100% addressed when there is a fully featured plug-play ECU replacement (or somebody is brave enough to encure the wrath of Lotus and re-map the Lotus ECU).
A tad inconsistent to now mock someone who might prefer to go that route, no?
As a side point, Lotus's powertrain engineers would be included in the 'and co' part.
Regardless, I'd still rather he had a go at my powertrain than you!
Edited by The Pits on Thursday 18th August 13:37
The reason for starting the post was because I was of the opinion that there might be some good aftermarket alternatives to the factory sc kit until I read your post.
Like I say, a compelling argument in favour of the factory kit.
Doubly so coming from someone with a vested interest in promoting aftermarket alternatives.
Unless the ecu issues have been properly sorted since you posted what I quoted above, the factory SC kit would appear to be the only way to avoid these issues. Given you can currently get factory kits with over £1k off I'd say it looks for all the world like the logical thing to do.
Like I say, a compelling argument in favour of the factory kit.
Doubly so coming from someone with a vested interest in promoting aftermarket alternatives.
Unless the ecu issues have been properly sorted since you posted what I quoted above, the factory SC kit would appear to be the only way to avoid these issues. Given you can currently get factory kits with over £1k off I'd say it looks for all the world like the logical thing to do.
But he was the one saying that 'apart from Charlie who's disappeared' no-one has managed to achieve a 'proper remap'! He has also previously advised people thinking about supercharging to 'wait'. However following this advice would now appear to make someone unworthy to be one of his customers! I had no idea it was such an honour!
Perhaps Exige77 would be so kind to inform me where I or anyone else interested could get a 'proper remap'?
Spending thousands on upgrading a car when according to an 'expert' this cannot be done properly makes no sense at all.
If you, like others here, think everything Lotus do is so 'crap' why would you buy one at all?
I don't think scuffers needs any 'followers' he worships himself enough as it is!
Perhaps Exige77 would be so kind to inform me where I or anyone else interested could get a 'proper remap'?
Spending thousands on upgrading a car when according to an 'expert' this cannot be done properly makes no sense at all.
If you, like others here, think everything Lotus do is so 'crap' why would you buy one at all?
I don't think scuffers needs any 'followers' he worships himself enough as it is!
Edited by The Pits on Thursday 18th August 18:01
Sinclairs? Apparently my hard earned cash isn't good enough.
I wonder how many other people have been put off the place by scuffers' rude, patronising and arrogant posts? He's as charming and articulate as a hackney looter. It's a wonder they don't put a muzzle on him. They probably have no idea that he's on here insulting potential customers but it's their loss either way.
I wonder how many other people have been put off the place by scuffers' rude, patronising and arrogant posts? He's as charming and articulate as a hackney looter. It's a wonder they don't put a muzzle on him. They probably have no idea that he's on here insulting potential customers but it's their loss either way.
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