Won't idle, loss of power

Won't idle, loss of power

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DonkeyApple

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Friday 8th April 2016
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Had an issue today (second day of car back on the road from winter) that I also had once towards the end of summer.

Car runs fine but after returning to it after a couple of hours it won't hold an idle and dies. It's gutless when you can get it up over 3000rpm to stop it stalling and runs very lumpy below before eventually stalling and then not restarting as if flooded.

On each occasion it has generally sorted itself out. The last time I just left it overnight and then it was fine and this time it sorted itself after I got it to a garage and filled up.

I'm guessing that it is the ECU getting its nickers in a twist but I wondered if the symptoms might suggest something like a lamda sensor packing up? Car naturally runs a little rich and I also don't often get the opportunity to give it a sound thrashing so I was wondering whether the sensor getting sorted up might be the trigger?

DonkeyApple

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Monday 11th April 2016
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Thanks. No access to diagnostics. I was more just pondering if rich running could foul the lambda sensor and if so would it create the symptoms I've seen a couple of times now?

DonkeyApple

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Monday 11th April 2016
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gruffalo said:
Lamda sensors not used over 3000 rpm so it shouldn't be them.

You say it ran OK after filling up, have to checked the carbon canister and the tank vents as it sounds like it may be forming a vacuum in the fuel tank.
I did wonder if it was a fuelling vacuum so did open the tank but that didn't resolve the issue at the time.

If the sensors aren't used above 3000 then it is possible that supports my theory.

But I am also wondering if the bug is fixed to when I change the settings on the TC.

I think the key will be to try and note more things should it crop up again.

DonkeyApple

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Monday 11th April 2016
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m4tti said:
Presumably your running an idle valve as Ryan set out in the original prototype for RG. I'd start there and look for unmetered air then look at things like the ignition amp, cam position sensor. The fff syvecs cars are set up fairly differently to standard. Woodys probably your best bet.
Just got it back from Woody. biggrin

Mine was one of the first that Ryan mapped and it has also never been revisited since being run in so at some point this year I ought to try and pin Ryan down to remap it from scratch.

DonkeyApple

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Monday 11th April 2016
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I had heard but wasn't aware of it was permanent?

DonkeyApple

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Wednesday 13th April 2016
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T40ORA said:
DonkeyApple said:
I had heard but wasn't aware of it was permanent?
He's just switched over from a UK to Dubai phone, so pretty long term I think.

I think Romaine is the guy to use.
Thanks.