Blocked overtake on dash cam.

[Jon999]

Recorded this a while ago only just got round to posting it up.

It has been on another forum and general consensus is that whilst I was a little eager to overtake the audi driver was being a cock. As I get alongside you can see him start accelerating to the point he's flat out trying to block me. 2.2 diesel mondeo didn't really stand a chance against 4.2 tdi q7. Maybe I should have lifted off earlier but it all happens so fast. You can see the car pitch down first when I lift off and second when I brake slightly as I was running out of visibility.

I also have the part where we pulled over and had a little discussion about his antics and he insisted that he was "trying to save my life" by preventing me overtaking. Crazy.

View for yourselves anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR5aummuFjw

[Jon999]

My foot was pressed hard against the firewall from the moment I pulled out til I realised the Q7 was having a good attempt at blocking my path. Getting concerned about the lack of visibility if I continued trying to get past I lifted off, you can see the nose of the car dip, then dip a bit more as I apply light braking - thats why the Q7 appears to suddenly dart off. I'm unsure if he was in the wrong gear or just not absolutely flat out, he should pull away easily from my car possibly stunted by my considerable head start.

As I start to overtake you see the Q7 dissapearing quite quickly but by the time his wing mirror / headlight dissapears you can see its accelerating hard as it slips out of view much slower.

The car is a 2.2 Mondeo, not fast but not desperately slow either. It was a pull from probably about 30 to probably exceeding NSL by the time I called it quits.

I don't usually read the badges on the backs of cars prior to overtaking them (you'd be following too closely to be able to do this anyway) and Q7's are usually in 3.0 TDi guise which would have been easily dispatched given the head start I had. The road in question offers a few more overtaking opportunities so progress could have been made but once bitten twice shy it would have been silly to try and overtake the Audi again hence returning to keeping a safe distance.

Thanks for the input, I'll definitely think twice before overtaking something potentially faster in the same place again (it is my daily commute run). Either that or buy a faster vehicle.

[Jon999]

Somewhatfoolish said:

I would certainly not have flashed him though afterwards... what's the point?

Point taken onboard, very true nothing could be gained other than voicing my displeasure.

Thanks for that input, I'll try and keep off the lights in future.

Beforehand he had pulled out of a industrial estate, probably 1/4 mile from where the video starts so I didn't have enough information on his driving to judge 100% how fast he was going to go. I put my money on it though if I hadn't gone for the overtake he would not have accelerated as he did once he got to NSL.

[Jon999]

Graebob said:

pthelazyjourno said:

Of course he has his lights on, the weather is lousy. So does everybody else??

How is that aggressive?

Having lights on isn't aggressive, that's not what I meant. Indeed, if I'm overtaking someone and I think they're a bit sleepy I'll flash my lights to let them know I'm there.

The Audi will have got a mirror full of bright lights milliseconds after leaving the roundabout, but before the OP overtook because the OP was so close. This could have been discomforting/distracting to the Audi driver. I just think the OP should have considered that

Seriously? So I should have considered my lights and read the 4.2 badge on the back before overtaking? Lol. The lights in the mirrors further enforces the fact he was aware of my prescence. I never flash before overtaking I tried it a few times and all it does is REALLY wind people up.

Lights are automatic so not guilty. Anyway it's raining so they should be on anyway

Thanks for the further comments. As I said before I'm not a 100% innocent party and I'm not making out like I am but the way the Audi reacted was stupid at best dangerous at worst.

[Jon999]

S. Gonzales Esq. said:

Overtaking defensively would probably involve assessing the target a bit more than was the case here.

Waiting until the NSL to see how the Audi reacts would have been good, as would the classic 'triangle' overtake. Using this technique, you get a good indication of how the target will react to being overtaken before committing to anything.

Mmm disagree. By pulling out early I had plenty of time to react whatever the q7 did hence even though he intentionally blocked me there was no danger as I still had a clear line of sight to the road ahead. You can kind of tell in the video that the bend is slight with good visibility so in theory I could have kept going but was sensible to first come off the accelerator then moderarely apply the brakes (you can see the car pitch down then down a little more in the video this is when the Audi hoots off) as it was clear at that point the Audi was playing games. Attempting later would have just made the situation worse as I guarantee he would have reacted in the same way leaving me with very little time to decide what to do.

Don't think this thread will ever end. Interesting to get everyone's opinions though.

Edited by Jon999 on Tuesday 24th July 13:11

[Jon999]

Cyrus1971 said:

BTW OP what dash cam are you using please ? Quality is pretty good. Might get one for myself.

DOD gs300. Think I'm going to sell it as I've had a company car for a couple of months now and it's just sat on the shelf doing nothing in its box as I'm not allowed to hard wire it into my new car and I'm not a fan of wires all over. Pm me if you want (if it's allowed on here).

Blackvue hd is another good camera as is DOD gs600 (adds gps speed overlay to mine ).

[Jon999]

zygalski said:

Not nearly quickly enough, imo.

It was flat out. I apologise if a mapped 2.2 litre diesel Mondeo isn't fast enough for you. IMO it is more than capable of overtaking swiftly as demonstrated here (despite the overtaken c2 having a hissy fit prompting me to save the clip and review it) http://youtu.be/F5_lgMPyoHM just no match for a 4.2 litre Audi.

[Jon999]

gaz1234 said:

wk music

Unsure why people bother going on about another persons taste in music. Seems like a waste of time to me. Thanks for your input though.

[Jon999]

No passenger. No glances the q7 window line is mich higher than the Mondeo too so not really possible. Maybe me talking to myself

As stated previously the camera runs 24/7.

Also as stated previously I admit the overtake was a little early and I am in no way saying my driving is perfect.

Interesting how much opinion varies.

Edited by Jon999 on Thursday 8th November 12:08

Edited by Jon999 on Thursday 8th November 12:08

[Jon999]

Mikebentley said:

Jon999 if my comments seemed off then I apologise as new to forums. I've calmed a lot nowadays with kids etc. but I've driven far worse myself. Why do you run the camera? Is it just to catch the crazy things we all see?
Mike

Don't worry no offence taken

I run the camera to have a proper record in the event of an accident and to hopefully catch any parking damage etc. Provides CCTV coverage of the house whilst the car is parked up too. Also is a good educational tool like in this instance - I should have backed off earlier and should not have flashed it achieved nothing (but it is quite hard to control yourself in these situations!). I'd post up more videos but they'd turn into massive never ending threads like this one.

The Q7 wasn't just making progress he was flat out like myself - but only once he realised he was being overtaken. When he pulled over further up the road he said that he was trying to save my life by preventing the overtake, not that he was making normal progress.

As stated previously the Mondeo wasn't exactly slow (in my eyes anyway) and had more than adequate power to overtake in the distance given no silly antics. Vision is good right round the bend hence no danger posed despite the Q7's reaction.

Edited by Jon999 on Thursday 8th November 20:28

Edited by Jon999 on Thursday 8th November 20:30