The kit that has its own legend - Rosso 1/8th Ferrari 643

The kit that has its own legend - Rosso 1/8th Ferrari 643

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The Hypno-Toad

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Wednesday 4th February 2015
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In the dim, dark days before the internet rumours, still were spread and thus was born the legend of Rosso Models.

Run by the son-in-law of the owner of Fujimi, they started off in about 1990 making fairly run of the mill 1/24th racing car models, GTRs and the like. Generally thought of as not bad quality (just below Tamiya and Hasegawa.) they then got adventurous and bought a licence from Ferrari. A couple of normal Ferrari's followed and then they got really adventurous and some would say ever so slightly bonkers.

They released a 1/8th transkit Ferrari 643 Prost/Alesi 1991 F1 car....

Its a truly beautiful thing with a hand finished metal body, three different types of decals and very similar build quality to the Tamiya 1/12th cars.

However...
The Ferrari 643 was a disaster (Prost described it as a truck and was fired for his comment) and the model was never going to be a huge sales success, which at £300.00 a copy (in 1992!) was going to be a bit of an issue reference cashflow. With this in mind, the owner burned down the factory, all of the stock was destroyed and the company went bankrupt.
The rumour side of this was that he actually drove his own Ferrari into the warehouse and set the fire from there. How true this is, who knows?

But very few of them escaped into the wild. In America and Japan it came out in a colour box with Marlboro stickers while in Europe it came out in a white box. Even rarer was the Upgrade kit with a driver figure and a metal engine block.

Well look what landed on The Toads lilypad yesterday.... wink







What to do, what to do.... wink




Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Wednesday 4th February 17:47

The Hypno-Toad

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Well chaps, the news might be good.

I'm currently trying to place it with a couple of dealers at the moment and if the next few offers I get are as pathetic as the first, it will be coming to a well-known auction site near you by the weekend.

Time to break open the piggy bank? smilesmilesmile

The Hypno-Toad

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Thanks for that, will have to investigate that route further too. smile

The Hypno-Toad

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Thursday 5th February 2015
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vx220 said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Thanks for that, will have to investigate that route further too. smile
BUILD IT!!! It will look amazing, unless you haven't got the skills (I haven't)

Why are you using Ray Luxury Yatch's photobucket?
When the internet was young and virgin, I used the name ray_luxury_yacht ("but its pronounced Throat Whobbler Mangrove.) on some other forums so maybe he nicked the name from me. smile
Although I have seen it on virtually every other forum that I visit, so I guess there are still a lot of Python fans out there.

With regard to building, I wish. I used to do F1 cars, in fact I have a number of 1/20th Tamiyas gradually falling to bits behind me but those days are long gone. I have no longer got the patience and skills to give something as rare as this car a proper job of construction.

Besides, I'm moving this one for someone else and basically he needs the cash flow!! smilesmilesmile

The Hypno-Toad

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Friday 20th February 2015
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Skii said:
Well the good news is you may well be able to have.

Having been jerked around by some German model dealer tosspot for a couple of weeks before he decided he didn't want it, it will be appearing on eBay this Sunday.

As has been mentioned earlier, some of the prices that have been seen on the internet are far too high for what the car is really worth. As far as I can discover none have actually been sold for four figures, just people thinking that's what they should be worth.

Therefore I will be pricing it with far more realistic expectations.

May the best man win!

The Hypno-Toad

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Sunday 22nd February 2015
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The Hypno-Toad

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Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Went yesterday for the 'buy it now' price, so sorry for those didn't get a bid in. Wasn't sure if the mods would delete any link as advertising/promotion.

Incredibly, with all this talk of Japanese sellers, German collectors and fancy auction houses it went to someone who lives less than five miles away from me!
If anything goes wrong t the last minute again I'll let you guys know but the money is in my account and I'll probably be running it round to him this evening.

edited to added the range of prices that I saw/was offered/estimated.

Specialist toy auction house: £150.00
Bonhams: £250.00
American dealer: £350.00
German tosspot dealer: £500.00
Toads: £???.??
One for sale on eBay now in Japan (starting bid.): £600.00
One went through eBay a few weeks ago: £620.00
Bonhams in 2006: £1200-£1500 (didn't sell.)

So if any of you see another one for sale that's the huge range that they have gone for. You can probably guess what mine went for and that seems like a fair price at the moment. It has now left the Toads pad but the good news is that it has gone to an enthusiastic 1/8 collector who is going to build it rather than let it gather dust on the shelf as an investment.

Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Tuesday 24th February 20:28


Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Tuesday 24th February 20:32