HMV SMS Von Der Tann (Bitten off more than I can chew)

HMV SMS Von Der Tann (Bitten off more than I can chew)

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shortar53

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Wednesday 8th February 2017
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Ok, slight swerve - a change of plan if you will. My Steve Irwin arrived, but it was creased to all hell (thanks posty) I may be able to salvage it but I can't bear to look at it at the moment.

However, Karma came to my rescue. I have a cousin who emigrated to Australia, and several months ago I'd sent him a care package of (now) vintage Football tops for his mancave. Literally the day after the Steve Irwin package was mangled, this arrived, with a note "Cheers from OZ. Mick"
http://www.kartonmodellbau.de/Battlecruiser-SMS-Vo...

I don't know where he'd sourced it from, and there's no lasercut set, but work is quiet at the moment, so I've made a start on this "minor" project, Mainly as child no.2 wants a boat for his room.



The baseplate is 687mm, and prepared in three sections with biscuits joining them.



Weighted down, the central spine is also in three sections. there is some slight warpage on the baseplate, maybe a rise of 1mm at the joins, but these are all internal and will be covered in the final build.



24 ribs fitted. these were done individually and again, weighted. They look out of line in this picture but as the next steps are completed, they'll be pulled true.



More internal sections fitted. there is a 12cm section that is actually externally visible, so a little bit of extra care has been taken to make sure these are level.



6" gun emplacement. Barrel is appx 1mm diameter and 20mm long, made of three parts. I actually cheated and replicated them on thinner paper to allow easier rolling. The design is complex, three part washer through the deck to allow for rotation, internal hinge section to allow for elevation change. As it's going to a three year old, (probably four by the time it's completed) the guns are fixed in position


Repeat. This is one side. Need another five for the other side. Several hours here - the joins aren't perfect but less than the front 180° is visible, and the top and bottom are covered snugly



Mounted.
The sides are (again) truer than they appear in this picture, the tabs aren't uniformly bent, and it will be hidden by the hull sides anyway.

I'm currently on halfway through step 5 of 39. This is going to be a long one.

shortar53

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Wednesday 8th February 2017
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AJLintern said:
Looks like a pretty complex model. I'm a fan of the Dreadnought era of warships, they're very aesthetically pleasing smile
It is. I think it's something like 24 pages + instructions

shortar53

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Thursday 9th February 2017
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My Eyes....

3.85" guns under construction. 4 for the fore mounted battery.




Total no. Barrels completed so far. 14.
No. Tiny tubular sections rolled around a pin? 38.

Next up is a chunk of deck. The challenge is to keep it from warping, then the sides go on and a multitude of sins disappear.

shortar53

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Friday 10th February 2017
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It's strange that some steps take hours and don't add much to the model, and others take significantly less time and add so much more.

Huge chunk of deck added. I ended up using superglue because the instant bite was just what I needed



It's decidedly more battleship shaped now, and the upper deck is nicely flat.

Hull sides now. Wish me luck, this will make or break it.

shortar53

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Friday 10th February 2017
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One side done. It's looking a hell of a lot tidier. Monday will see the other side attached and the hull 'watertight'
I need four more 3.85" guns for the rear ports but I need to find them on the parts sheets (and reproduce them on thinner paper). They're easy enough to fit though so that can wait.
This will take me to step 6 complete, then work begins in earnest (a famous shipyard) on the superstructure.

It's actually going together reasonably easy so far, the instructions aren't great (the part numbers are 'flexible') but it's the sheer volume of parts that's still faunting

shortar53

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Tuesday 14th February 2017
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A little progress on the superstructure

I've decided that all the gun barrels are going to be re-done at the end (this thing is two feet long, and attracts knocks on my desk), but I'm pressing on.


shortar53

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Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Holy internal structures, Batman...

None of this will be seen once the sides are on the structure


shortar53

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Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Einion Yrth said:
Is "epic" modeller slang for "a fecking nightmare"? If so I suspect I would agree.
It's not actually too bad to build - so far. There is a lot to it, but so far it's no more fiddly than any of the other HMV models I've built.

Note: I may well end up eating my words. If so, I'll print them, form them into a dinghy and post photos biggrin

It just takes patience and a little thought...
i.e. - in the below steps, 84e needs to be fitted before 84c & 84d



Always cut the parts for each step and dry fit before gluing.

shortar53

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Friday 17th February 2017
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All that internal structure I just posted?

Gone, never to be seen again.
In it's place,vents. Lots of vents.



The funnel builds on top of this section, and it'll start looking more like a boat. :-)

shortar53

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Sunday 19th February 2017
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perdu said:
Well that was worthy of a decent chuckle

smile

This looks pretty well show stopping as well

Lots of time before Huddy now too wink
You're right about the lots of time. Judging what's left to do, it might be finished by huddy 2020
(Actually, I have a big job upheaval in the works, and the new site may be less conducive to building during lunch and whilst on teleconferences)

It's also nowhere near the standard needed to enter, unless I pretend the youngest built it.

Edit. Having said that, the northern model show is about 5 mins walk from my house.

Edited by shortar53 on Sunday 19th February 17:37

shortar53

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Monday 20th February 2017
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Been stuck on an emergency 'call' all day so a bit of progress.

Two funnels, both numbered the same. One with a fillet cut to fit the base. Numbnuts of course made the wrong one up and cut it to fit before realising.
Luckily I'd scanned the pages before I started so I can replace the broken one.

Lots of excess PVA to be removed once things have set, crap picture but you get the idea.

shortar53

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Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Twenty six supports to hold the louvred vents around the bottom of the second funnel... Twenty bloody six!



They're gone now, hidden behind the louvres. Assorted greebling has taken place since this pic, the funnel is attached and the section is affixed to the deck.

Several miniscule winches need to be built to complete this section, so I'll be breaking out the super glue at lunch tomorrow to speed that up. Helpfully, the railings aren't numbered on the instructions for this section. I think I've found them but I'll be double checking before attaching.

shortar53

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Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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dr_gn said:
Looking fine - just remember that all these tiny - seemingly insignificnat - parts will add up to something pretty spectacular in the end.
Thanks Doc. I'm actually enjoying it, despite the instructions, and the guys at work keep complimenting it, even if they do think I'm slightly insane...

Probably shooting myself in the foot, but not found anything 'hard' yet, but there is just a lot still to do.

Edit... Quick pic



Edited by shortar53 on Thursday 23 February 08:14

shortar53

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Thursday 23rd February 2017
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More Louvres than a cheap tour of the Paris.

Managed another chunk of Greebles for the central funnel and started the next superstructure.





[url|http://thumbsnap.com/gkvVNpgY[/url]

It's definitely boat shaped now.



shortar53

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Monday 27th February 2017
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Sneaky technique I've picked up, it's working for fencing, and in this case, the armour plating on some smaller guns - the cut out for the base/top makes a convenient form to hold the paper in shape whilst the glue is setting up.




Rear structure almost complete, 2 more guns to add.


Heavy Artillery.



Test fit. There's about 40 pieces in the turret, but it looks like it will bring the thunder already. I need to build four of these in total, then it's mainly masts and Greebles to go.

Edited by shortar53 on Monday 27th February 17:58


Edited by shortar53 on Monday 27th February 17:59

shortar53

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Wednesday 1st March 2017
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8 11" guns, mounted in 4 turrets.
Looking formidable now.


Now begins the process of greebling the deck. Myriad vents and boxes need to be built up - I've done about 10, and there are about 50 more to go.





Also to be created at this stage are 10 smaller lifeboats. Oh Joy.

shortar53

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Friday 3rd March 2017
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Lots of small boxes put together.

Even more tiny cylinders put together.
Finishing touches flying together, lifeboats and masts are the only major parts left. Should hopefully be finished in the next week.




shortar53

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Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Almost done. Rigging, replacement gun barrels and a few bits of tidying up left to do.
The bottom of the hull is a little wavy in places so my aim there is to free that a little and re-stick it in such a way that it looks more smooth

shortar53

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Thursday 9th March 2017
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Most of the rigging completed.. minor tidyups to the bottom of the hull and other bits to do, but that will be done at home.

I'll try and take some decent pics once it's polished.

shortar53

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Monday 13th March 2017
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dr_gn said:
It looks very good to me. I'm amazed it only took 1 month to build - you must have been working on it pretty much full time!

Did you sort out the wavy hull sides?
There's been a lot of slack time at work.. I've probably managed to sneak a good few hours a day in if I'm honest. The other 3 on my team have joked that I need a time idea to bill to for it.

I've managed to get the sides a lot better, ran a scalpel along the join and reglued.

Shortarse Jr loves it, i hope you excuse the awful crop but this shows the scale quite well.