Best varnish to flatten glossy paint job

Best varnish to flatten glossy paint job

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perdu

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Wednesday 30th March 2011
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OK this is a call to arms

Please can we have the list of whatever you use to flatten paint surfaces after decal application

I don't want to keep boring folks with the Typhoon build but need ths advice to finally put this and the next ones to bed

I thought we could then "pot" the conclusions and bung it into the fresh new Wiki for future reference

Chaps?

perdu

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Wednesday 30th March 2011
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Thanks dr_gn

I knew you'd used that but thought a broad approach would be helpful for the Wiki

Cheers

(I'm expecting to go with the Humbrol spray when I can find a cansmile)

perdu

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Wednesday 30th March 2011
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me too

just quietly making bombs for a old tired project...

perdu

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Wednesday 30th March 2011
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Thanks Eric

More grist to the mill

Humbrol Matt Aerosol spray in warm-ish atmospheres
Xtracrylic Matt Varnish, care with thinning
Tamiya Gloss but buggered about with by adding flatting agent



{footnote] edit to add another good 'un [/footnote]

Edited by perdu on Thursday 31st March 00:42

perdu

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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16VJay said:
Believe it or not, Tamiya Gloss with a drop of their matting agent. The more of it you add, the flatter the finish. Never tried it myself, but some people swear by it.
Thanks

Tamiya Gloss but buggered about with by adding flatting agent

Sounds quite likely to me

over the yearsI've seen some "odd" thing work perfectly

On the list, cheers

perdu

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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Evangelion said:
I also use Tamiya Gloss (X-22 from memory) with added Flatting Agent.
how matt is the resulting finish with this?

Do you spray or brush?

An odd thingsmile

All my Thirty Year Old Tamiya varnishes have dried out in their bottles

Go figure! as they say

perdu

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Friday 1st April 2011
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dr_gn said:
Evangelion said:
dr_gn said:
When you say "the full amount", what does that mean? 100% Flat Base?
Interesting point, as nowhere on the jar does it state how much to use! I was told one part to every four of paint for full matt but haven't been able to verify this. All I can say is experiment! I just keep adding a little at a time and testing it until it looks right.
So what happens if you spray neat flat base?
As a bloke with a full jar of X-21 Flat base, a new 250ml bottle of X-20A thinner and a brand new can of Humbrol aerosol (at last!), I am dying to hear this answer.
We are getting some good stuff out of this question

perdu

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Saturday 2nd April 2011
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Looks satin to me too

My jar of Tamiya X-21 is full of a liquid flat base, so I think I will thin it as for spraying before I use it

I remember using talc many years ago to flatten colours but I never had much success

Anyway doc, I do have the right aerosol, flat49 and this is about to be used on the Typhoon

Should one weather first or after flatting?

A question of locking in the grime or adding it to the outer surface

So much to learn...

perdu

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Sunday 3rd April 2011
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So we have (so far, any idea how long this should go for before we sticky it into the Wiki?)

Humbrol Matt Aerosol spray in warm-ish atmospheres
Xtracrylic Matt Varnish, care with thinning
Tamiya Gloss but buggered about with by adding flatting agent

We also have Tamiya X-21 added to Johnson's Klear to flatten this too

And Future being the US trade name for a similar product

I can see that adding X-21 to your favourite "perfect colour" will matt it rather than trying to remix the colour in matt colours, some of which end up with different hues to the similar colours in gloss (been there, tee shirt in the wash)

Do you lose colour strength when matting down?