Pug 206 1.4 CV joints

Pug 206 1.4 CV joints

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ian_uk1975

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Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Got a pair of outer CV joints for my other half's 206 1.4 (51 plate). Anyone done the job before? Any tips? I'm hoping to knock the outer CVs off without removing the driveshafts.

ian_uk1975

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Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Old Merc said:
I`ve been working on Peugeot`s for 40yrs and never replaced a CV joint on its own. Never seen any available,always used an exchange shaft.There are different types of shafts and most do not have "knock off outer CV`s".It`s such an easy job to replace a shaft and you can get quality units for £50-£75.
I've got the outer CVs for the shaft... SKF supply them too.

Any tips on getting the bottom ball joint to split? We've been working for over an hour trying to do it and can only get it to move about half way out. No amount of hammering and levering seems to be making it go any further???

ian_uk1975

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Thursday 24th March 2011
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To anyone contemplating this job, think twice! It took me and a mate over 6 HOURS to change ONE CV joint. Every bit of the job was a nightmare from start to finish... OE hub nut secured by deforming the edge of it into little 'divots' in the end of the CV joint (what's wrong with threadlock and/or a split pin?!), lower ball joint a total nightmare to free from the hub (and to put back in afterwards) and the only way to remove the outer CV joint is to totally destroy the bearing cage with a lump hammer and an angle grinder, then grind off/split the inner race off the end of the drive shaft.

Edited by ian_uk1975 on Thursday 24th March 00:30

ian_uk1975

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Thursday 24th March 2011
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Old Merc said:
Like I said,fit an exchange shaft and job done in 30mins.
If you think you can jack the car, support on axle stands, remove wheel, remove hub nut, split bottom ball joint, pull the old shaft out, put the new shaft in, secure boots, re-attach bottom ball joint to hub, replace hub nut, replace wheel (torquing all nuts/bolts up to their proper values)... oh, and drain and refill the gearbox oil (and change the box oil seals) all in 30 mins from start to finish, all I can say is you've never done the job on a 206 before or you've got access to professional garage facilities with a 2/4 post lift and air tools. Even then, you'd be beating the 'book time' by quite some margin.

Edited by ian_uk1975 on Thursday 24th March 17:39

ian_uk1975

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Thursday 24th March 2011
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doogz said:
I changed a driveshaft on a 206 in about half an hour. Not really that tricky tbh. Never drained the gear oil though. Just was quick about whipping the old shaft out and sticking the new one in. Spilled maybe 50ml of oil, stuck about the same amount back in the top. Splitting ball joints isn't hard. I used a long half inch drive extension bar, sat on a trolley jack, and propped against the lower end of the strut, adjacent to the ball joint. Taking the weight, by jacking adn compressing the strut makes it a bit easier.

Oh, and it was done on the road, outside my mates house.
The one we did must've been particularly difficult then. We've both got plenty of amateur experience of working on cars and it took us over an hour just to get the bottom ball joint shaft clear of the hub assembly. Could've done with a longer breaker bar though. Oh, and we did jack the hub up to compress the strut.

ian_uk1975

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Friday 25th March 2011
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Old Merc said:
Its the difference with a professional and a DIY.I`ve been working on Peugeots for 40yrs and had my own Peugeot Specialist workshop for 25yrs.When I was in the Peugeot rally team we could change a gearbox by the side of the road in 45mins.I`ve often given advice here but can not understand why on some jobs I see chaps mess about all w/end etc when a small independent would charge 1HR labour to do it.I would have charged £25 + vat labour "IF" I supplied the new shaft.
Local Formula-1 outfit wanted £350 to change both driveshaft (incl. parts)!

If you were local, you'd definitely have got the job (and a drink) for all the grief it caused me! It's all good fun though (if you're not doing it for a living).