Thinking of buying a Turbo or early Arnage
Discussion
Greetings all
I have owned a number of luxury/performace cars in the past but never a Bentley. I have always fancied an Arnage or Turbo R and recently found myself bidding on a 94 Turbo R. Luckily i didnt win!
Anyway im looking to potentially purchase a Bentley and was wondering how the two cars compare. Price wise i will be at the lower end of the Arnage range, so only looking at the Green Label 4.4L cars.
How do the two cars compare in terms of driving, reliability, running costs, living with one? etc. I am probably looking to keep my car for a considerable amount of time, but how are these to live with? I'll probably be looking at doing about £5K miles a year.
I have owned a number of luxury/performace cars in the past but never a Bentley. I have always fancied an Arnage or Turbo R and recently found myself bidding on a 94 Turbo R. Luckily i didnt win!
Anyway im looking to potentially purchase a Bentley and was wondering how the two cars compare. Price wise i will be at the lower end of the Arnage range, so only looking at the Green Label 4.4L cars.
How do the two cars compare in terms of driving, reliability, running costs, living with one? etc. I am probably looking to keep my car for a considerable amount of time, but how are these to live with? I'll probably be looking at doing about £5K miles a year.
Aaron
Many thanks for your detailed and very informative post! Thats really given me a lot to think about. Clearly the Turbo R has much to offer if you are on No.3 but why did you choose to replace a 96 with a 90? If i go with the Turbo R i will probably be looking at a 94 onwards as i like the updates that have been made to the car over the earlier models. I also presume maintenance will be a little less heavy on the wallet.
If they are hard for you to sell in the US think about us Brits over here with Petrol prices as they are! I guess to a large extent its a buyers market then. I noticed from a lot of cars for sale that they all suffer from rust problems which for me was very surprising. The car I was looking at has rust bubbles round all four door handles. Like the T1 you mentioned it too had little or no history and the drivers seat was quite worn. Kind of glad that i didnt win the auction now as it probably needed a lot of money, but saying that it could have made a nice project car.
On the other end of the spectrum there is lovely Arnage for sale at the moment for £20k which has had £13k worth of work done from Bentley! Sounds like the kind of car to buy, but sadly its more than i am looking to spend. Good bargain for some else though.
You mentioned the rear brakes and im shocked! What were they thinking when they designed the car! Is that still a problem on the later Turbo R cars?
Thanks again for your response. If any other owners have gone from a Turbo R to an Arnage i'd love to hear from you!
Many thanks for your detailed and very informative post! Thats really given me a lot to think about. Clearly the Turbo R has much to offer if you are on No.3 but why did you choose to replace a 96 with a 90? If i go with the Turbo R i will probably be looking at a 94 onwards as i like the updates that have been made to the car over the earlier models. I also presume maintenance will be a little less heavy on the wallet.
If they are hard for you to sell in the US think about us Brits over here with Petrol prices as they are! I guess to a large extent its a buyers market then. I noticed from a lot of cars for sale that they all suffer from rust problems which for me was very surprising. The car I was looking at has rust bubbles round all four door handles. Like the T1 you mentioned it too had little or no history and the drivers seat was quite worn. Kind of glad that i didnt win the auction now as it probably needed a lot of money, but saying that it could have made a nice project car.
On the other end of the spectrum there is lovely Arnage for sale at the moment for £20k which has had £13k worth of work done from Bentley! Sounds like the kind of car to buy, but sadly its more than i am looking to spend. Good bargain for some else though.
You mentioned the rear brakes and im shocked! What were they thinking when they designed the car! Is that still a problem on the later Turbo R cars?
Thanks again for your response. If any other owners have gone from a Turbo R to an Arnage i'd love to hear from you!
Been a while since i updated. Went to see a 1996 Bentley Turbo RL over the weekend and have to say they are epic on the inside. Much more of an occasion that the Arnage (or at least the early ones)! I'll try to upload pictures if i can (not mine so quality is not great).
Car Black with what i assume is silvestone interior. Condition was good on the inside, with a little wear on the drivers seat but otherwise ok. Has the rear picnic tables which is nice, as well as a few other extras. Interior was let down but a LCD TV above the glovebox on the dash! What was the previous owner thinking!!!
Exterior looked in poorish condition, no rust or scratches but not how i want it. Luckily i had a proper look at the car and all it needs is a proper detail. So if i get it i can get some of my guys to sort that out. Pretty sure it will look 9/10 when they are finished. Doesnt look like paint is needed anywhere which is good.
Personally i would prefer an Arnage just because it is more modern, but moneywise the Turbo R is probably more sensible.
Car Black with what i assume is silvestone interior. Condition was good on the inside, with a little wear on the drivers seat but otherwise ok. Has the rear picnic tables which is nice, as well as a few other extras. Interior was let down but a LCD TV above the glovebox on the dash! What was the previous owner thinking!!!
Exterior looked in poorish condition, no rust or scratches but not how i want it. Luckily i had a proper look at the car and all it needs is a proper detail. So if i get it i can get some of my guys to sort that out. Pretty sure it will look 9/10 when they are finished. Doesnt look like paint is needed anywhere which is good.
Personally i would prefer an Arnage just because it is more modern, but moneywise the Turbo R is probably more sensible.
I hate TVs in the back too. Unless I need it for business reasons i personally couldnt justify it. a lot of people say its for the kids nowadays, but what is wrong with kids reading a book. Seems to be a lost art.
Regarding the screen, no its not screwed but above the glove box on the Airbag cover, and angled towards the driver slightly! It looks like they have cut the wood (Yikes i know)and used the wood as the surround. Its probably hard to picture, so i will post a pic, but will have to be later today.
Regarding the screen, no its not screwed but above the glove box on the Airbag cover, and angled towards the driver slightly! It looks like they have cut the wood (Yikes i know)and used the wood as the surround. Its probably hard to picture, so i will post a pic, but will have to be later today.
POORCARDEALER said:
Sounds bloody awful lol
Lol I know! My problem is that this is or use in Dubai, and out here there is not a lot of choice. Currently i have 3 cars to choose from, and this is overall in good condition.Actually on that, i started the car up but didnt get a chance to test drive it as i had a meeting to rush to. It started fine, but the brake light on the dash was on. I read somewhere today that this might be related to the hydrolics. Is this correct? Are there any other likely reasons for the brake warning light being on? Im assuming it needs a brake service.
Thanks
Here are the pictures. Sorry for the poor quality as the pictures are not mine. As you can see the on dash tv! Yikes.
Thanks also for the tips on the braking system. I will try them when i am with the car next.
One thing if someone can clarify. I thought the mirrors were updated to all 1994 models onwards. This is is advertised as a 1996 car but with the old mirrors (its a Japanese import). Anyone know when the mirrors were updated?
Thanks also for the tips on the braking system. I will try them when i am with the car next.
One thing if someone can clarify. I thought the mirrors were updated to all 1994 models onwards. This is is advertised as a 1996 car but with the old mirrors (its a Japanese import). Anyone know when the mirrors were updated?
Edited by RoyaleDetailing on Saturday 21st July 12:22
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