The Time Trial Thread

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Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Given there seems to be much more interest in this side of the sport, be good to get everyone in one place perhaps (a bit like the wattage thread?).

Where do we all do time trials? I tend to stick to the Surrey/Hants area with a few exceptions, and I tend to ride 10 mile TT's and 25 mile as at present the bike isn't all that comfortable to ride for longer (in anger) due to the saddle, but I've not found a TT specific saddle I like yet, adamo wasn't for me.

Be interesting to know what bikes everyone is riding on too, perhaps can generate some chat about how much time people saved from moving to this that or the other etc - I'm on a Trek Speed Concept (stupid name) with HED wheels 90mm and disc.

And PB's? I'm sure we've got some fast testers lurking in our midst...

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Tuesday 28th April 2015
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PulsatingStar said:
Its my clubs first evening 10 Thursday on G10/57 (Horsham/Crawley) so I intend on beating my PB. It shouldnt be too hard as my one and only attempt was on New Years Day and the weather conditions were pretty bad, but I have 28.08 as a marker.

Im just going to be riding by BMC TMR01 road bike, although I have got some clip on tri bars now with Di2 shifters. Also some Planet X 101/82 Tubs that I bought on a whim as it seemed like a good deal when I bought them. And then I got a fancy helmet last week just because I wanted one. I have promised myself I wont get a full on TT bike until I go <24. We'll see if I can get there...
Ah quite local to my old club ten course!! (G10/42).

I've pencilled in a possible event on the one you mention in a couple of weeks, but its a bloody early start, even though I'll likely be one of late starters!

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I think on a normal course, hillingdon is still marginally technical, not to the same extent as cyclopark which is really quite slow (windy too!), and getting on a TT bike with a decent set up on a dual carriageway should prove its worth. I think when I switched my best time on a road bike like yours, aero etc to my TT bike I was immediately a minute faster, and probably like for like conditions it would have been more like 80 seconds, straight off the bat, and my position and skinsuit etc then was a fair bit slower than it is now.

I think a fair bit of it comes down to how well you can get on with TT position, I was lucky in that it didn't hinder me too much, but some others I know never managed to do as well on TT bikes as they did with their road bikes with TT bars attached purely as it hindered them too much.

I can't remember when my first normal TT is this year but if you want to try a normal DC then H10/8 is fairly close and good, I think its in a couple of weeks, hopefully can get things started with a bang, set some aggressive targets on the local courses this year.

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Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Respect. I do admire the nutters who do the 12/24's!!!

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Wednesday 29th April 2015
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whatleytom said:
There's an excel sheet of ctt events on the TT forum.

https://sites.google.com/site/xavierdisley/ctteven...

Just filter by course and then you can see the dates.
They are open events though Tom, you have to be a member of a CTT affiliated club to enter an open event, not sure if dizeeee is.

Annoyingly this year it seems London West have not put their events on their site, you can of course buy a handbook (archaic as time trialing is, a book!) but they're sold out too! So I think sadly at current the only way is to cruise the club forums.

However, there are a list of club events here for London South, which is basically Dorking as a nearest point to where you are - https://www.dropbox.com/s/b8e2vwtarnlrpvy/G%20dist... - events marked O are open and you need to be a club rider, and events marked C are club, so in theory you should be able to turn up and pay.

Edited by okgo on Wednesday 29th April 09:21

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Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Cos18 said:
I've done a couple of 10 milers down in Plymouth, on a 5 mile uphill-turn point-back the way you came which seems to be 5 more miles of uphill! Can't remember times exactly but they were around 30 mins. I've done a 25 as part of a triathlon, which came in at around 1.06, but I had a mechanical and a runaway bottle. More recently I completed a 24km in New Zealand. in which I averaged just over 25mph. I've got my sights on a 50 mile in July, which I'm hoping to do in as close to 2 hours as I can.

I"m located in Brighton, and I can't seem to see any regular fixtures. Does anyone know of any? I'd like to do a weekly 10/25 if such a thing takes place down here.

My current gear is an S5 with clip ons for what it's worth. I did the Plymouth TTs/Triathlons on a Planet X Pro Carbon which Supra RD-30 wheels and clip ons. When I bought my S5 back in December I had it properly fitted, and they gave me a shorter stem to use in conjunction with aero bars which makes a massive difference.
Have a look here, this is the Steyning club ten someone mentioned above - http://www.worthingexcelsior.co.uk/events.html

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Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Surfr said:
Wiki updated. Good call okgo and bravo on that 18 minute 10 even on a drag strip like that it's a hell of a time!
Yeh its a quick course, not quite as quick as the V718 standard, but even still! My 25 time actually ranks me higher on the 'all time' fastest list (I think 22nd since records began, inc Boardman, Dowsett, Yates etc) than the 10 given how common 18's are becoming!

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Wednesday 29th April 2015
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superkartracer said:
Quick indeed , top stuff. Just looked at the all time fast 10 list, Matt Bottrill did a 17.40 on the V718/1 !!! insane...
Same day I did it smile

It was the National Champs last year, I was 15th or 16th, he was 1st, by 2 seconds in front of An Post pro Ryan Mullen smile

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Wednesday 29th April 2015
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drgav2005 said:
okgo, have you tried the Specialised Sitero? I find it a lot more comfortable than the ISM Adamo Prologue (and Attack) that I used to use - might be an option!
I've not actually, the catalyst for change hasn't been there really as for 1 hour the Arione is fine. But I think I might try a 50 this year as I think I could go quite well over that time period which will force saddle action. I'll certainly try the one you mention as I've heard good things from others also.

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Thursday 30th April 2015
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No worries, I was thinking about adding a column for roadbikes, but I think many of the times on there are roadbikes anyway (not likely to be the same as the one you rode!).

But as you say I think many of the super fast courses over the years have been banned due to traffic count, but 20.10 with no aero or tribars is rapid, even on a drag strip.

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Thursday 30th April 2015
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fromage said:
Might try and do a few of the Hillingdon and Velopark TT's this year when I can get back training again. Have you done any of the Hillingdon TT's on the TT bike Rob?
Nope, I've never found the thought of riding from mine to hillingdon and back on a TT bike that appealing biggrin

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Thursday 30th April 2015
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Just seen that Brad Wiggins is riding the same course I did above in two weeks time! I smell a new competition record...

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Friday 1st May 2015
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Cycling fast isn't really a 'skill' or something that you really can improve all that much by anything other than being fitter.

There are a million ways to skin a cat in regards to improving fitness (and I think 999k of those threads are on here and bikeradar!), but generally ride more often, ride harder, push yourself, recover, push yourself some more, ride with people better than you etc.

I'll also say that the drinking and smoking likely isn't making any odds in the grand scheme (as I've done/do both and still gone ok).

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Friday 1st May 2015
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Herman Toothrot said:
Interesting views regards the drinking and smoking, of my improvement over the week I gave myself about 30 or 40 seconds by having coughed up Friday's fags in the Monday and got properly rehydrated. I read somewhere being a bit dehydrated can loose you something crazy like 20% potential. I was still coughing and wheezing after last night but no where near as bad as Monday.
Yes of course, riding on a hangover is not wise, but what I mean is that in the grand scheme, given there are 7 days you could be training, 1 day where you drink 8 pints and smoke a few fags isn't going to hurt you too much. I tend to drink around that one night a week and little else wink

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Sunday 10th May 2015
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Dizeee said:
This is just a hundred and one events across the land, how do I filter as I can't find any dates for the H10/8 course smile
You not heard of the find function?

Control + F

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Strava has his best time on h10/8 as a 24 so possibly a typo
In the wiki...

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Dizeee said:
The wiki time is for a different course... the h10/8.

Last night was HC123aa which in my opinion is a rubbish course. But its on my doorstep!
Your best time on H10/8 is in the 24's according to Strava which is what I wrote above...?

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Dizeee said:
Scrap that, I have just gone and looked at the archived results from the 22 July when I did it and I was 24:11, so it looks like I have given myself a minute less! Best change that wiki...
Yeh being given a time exactly 1 min out can happen, happened to me earlier this year. Some poor chap thought he had won, I'd actually beaten him by 30 seconds or so when I got the correction.

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Friday 15th May 2015
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So tomorrow Brad Wiggins hits almost the same course I did when I did that 18.46, he will of course be trying to beat Dowsetts competition record of 17.20, set on another ast course (E2/10).

I personally think he will beat it and it's likely he might do a 16 which is an average speed over 35mph...