Is it OK to "not quite" match your Bracket Class times ?

Is it OK to "not quite" match your Bracket Class times ?

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Benni

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Friday 13th June 2014
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Hello from Germany,

since there are some sportsmen racers in here I would like an answer to this :

Imagine you want to run in P/ET with their times from 9.00 - 11.99sec,

but your car will only do a 12.00 or 12.10.

Is it mandatory to run a time "within the class bracket" during quali or elims

or can a car that runs some 1/10s or 1/100s off the class time - but constant- also enter,

dial an 11:99 and constantly go low or very low 12s ?

Benni

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212 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Thanks for the answers so far, keep them coming.

As I don´t have an MSA rulebook at hand :

It is not mandatory to RUN a number within the class bracket but

it is mandatory to DIAL a number within the class bracket ?

In the german rulebook this is not stated clearly,

so I am looking for examples from other countries how this is stated and handled.

P.S.: Does the same apply to Super classes ?

Benni

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Sunday 15th June 2014
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Tet said:
..............You need to meet the safety requirements of the class, so you'll need to have a roll cage as if you were capable of running 11.99 or quicker, but I had that anyway...............
Another question : Do you need to meet the safety requirements of the class, or the safety requirements of the ET you actually do ?
A 12.03 car may enter P/ET but has to meet 9.00 safety specs ?
We do have some nice classic muscle cars here who don´t want to cut their full stock interior up
to fit a roll bar (required if faster then 12.00) or a full roll cage (required if faster than 10.00) in Germany.
So far, these are allowed in P/ET but one run under 12:00 means they are out for the weekend,
which I think is OK but maybe UK regs are different in that point.

Benni

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Monday 16th June 2014
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Hi Martyn,

thanks for the link, but even in QuadroLibria smile one question -to @ll- is not answered :

Do you need to meet the safety requirements of the class,
or the safety requirements of the ET you actually do ?

Benni

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3,517 posts

212 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Hi Martyn,

thanks for the link, but even in QuadroLibria smile one question -to @ll- is not answered :

Do you need to meet the safety requirements of the class,
or the safety requirements of the ET you actually do ?

Benni

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Monday 16th June 2014
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Thank you, Mrs or Mr. Dorris, this was the answer I was looking for.

Benni

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Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Hello Martyn,

it seems that the standardisation has gone quite far in european Drag Racing, and rightly so,

if a racer goes abroad he/she is most likely to find the same rules and classes as in the home country.

In Germany there are
Super Pro ET 6,00 – 8,99 Sek.
Pro ET 9,00 – 11,99 Sek.
Sportsman ET 12,00 – 13,99 Sek. (very rarely on offer)
Street ET 14,00 Sek. and slower (non-existent)

Time Brackets may also be changed by the organiser, most run it like this

but sometimes P/ET is also allowing cars up to 12:99 in to make for bigger fields like in Bitburg this Weekend.

The safety classes are according to FIA :

ET I : 6,00 to 7,49 (*3,50 - 4,49)
ET II : 7,50 to 9,99 (*4,50-6,39)
ET III : 10.00 to 11,99 (*6,40-7,49)
ET IV : 12,00 to 13,99 (*7,50 – 8,59)
ET V : 14,00 and slower (*8,60 or slower)
(times in brackets are 1/8mile)

Ages ago, when PM was not an official FIA class,
these cars were run under "Advanced ET" safety rules in Hockenheim.

I have heard that in Sweden the ET classes are running under different brackets,

does anyone know how these are ?