Is it OK to "not quite" match your Bracket Class times ?
Discussion
Hello from Germany,
since there are some sportsmen racers in here I would like an answer to this :
Imagine you want to run in P/ET with their times from 9.00 - 11.99sec,
but your car will only do a 12.00 or 12.10.
Is it mandatory to run a time "within the class bracket" during quali or elims
or can a car that runs some 1/10s or 1/100s off the class time - but constant- also enter,
dial an 11:99 and constantly go low or very low 12s ?
since there are some sportsmen racers in here I would like an answer to this :
Imagine you want to run in P/ET with their times from 9.00 - 11.99sec,
but your car will only do a 12.00 or 12.10.
Is it mandatory to run a time "within the class bracket" during quali or elims
or can a car that runs some 1/10s or 1/100s off the class time - but constant- also enter,
dial an 11:99 and constantly go low or very low 12s ?
Thanks for the answers so far, keep them coming.
As I don´t have an MSA rulebook at hand :
It is not mandatory to RUN a number within the class bracket but
it is mandatory to DIAL a number within the class bracket ?
In the german rulebook this is not stated clearly,
so I am looking for examples from other countries how this is stated and handled.
P.S.: Does the same apply to Super classes ?
As I don´t have an MSA rulebook at hand :
It is not mandatory to RUN a number within the class bracket but
it is mandatory to DIAL a number within the class bracket ?
In the german rulebook this is not stated clearly,
so I am looking for examples from other countries how this is stated and handled.
P.S.: Does the same apply to Super classes ?
Tet said:
..............You need to meet the safety requirements of the class, so you'll need to have a roll cage as if you were capable of running 11.99 or quicker, but I had that anyway...............
Another question : Do you need to meet the safety requirements of the class, or the safety requirements of the ET you actually do ?A 12.03 car may enter P/ET but has to meet 9.00 safety specs ?
We do have some nice classic muscle cars here who don´t want to cut their full stock interior up
to fit a roll bar (required if faster then 12.00) or a full roll cage (required if faster than 10.00) in Germany.
So far, these are allowed in P/ET but one run under 12:00 means they are out for the weekend,
which I think is OK but maybe UK regs are different in that point.
Hello Martyn,
it seems that the standardisation has gone quite far in european Drag Racing, and rightly so,
if a racer goes abroad he/she is most likely to find the same rules and classes as in the home country.
In Germany there are
Super Pro ET 6,00 – 8,99 Sek.
Pro ET 9,00 – 11,99 Sek.
Sportsman ET 12,00 – 13,99 Sek. (very rarely on offer)
Street ET 14,00 Sek. and slower (non-existent)
Time Brackets may also be changed by the organiser, most run it like this
but sometimes P/ET is also allowing cars up to 12:99 in to make for bigger fields like in Bitburg this Weekend.
The safety classes are according to FIA :
ET I : 6,00 to 7,49 (*3,50 - 4,49)
ET II : 7,50 to 9,99 (*4,50-6,39)
ET III : 10.00 to 11,99 (*6,40-7,49)
ET IV : 12,00 to 13,99 (*7,50 – 8,59)
ET V : 14,00 and slower (*8,60 or slower)
(times in brackets are 1/8mile)
Ages ago, when PM was not an official FIA class,
these cars were run under "Advanced ET" safety rules in Hockenheim.
I have heard that in Sweden the ET classes are running under different brackets,
does anyone know how these are ?
it seems that the standardisation has gone quite far in european Drag Racing, and rightly so,
if a racer goes abroad he/she is most likely to find the same rules and classes as in the home country.
In Germany there are
Super Pro ET 6,00 – 8,99 Sek.
Pro ET 9,00 – 11,99 Sek.
Sportsman ET 12,00 – 13,99 Sek. (very rarely on offer)
Street ET 14,00 Sek. and slower (non-existent)
Time Brackets may also be changed by the organiser, most run it like this
but sometimes P/ET is also allowing cars up to 12:99 in to make for bigger fields like in Bitburg this Weekend.
The safety classes are according to FIA :
ET I : 6,00 to 7,49 (*3,50 - 4,49)
ET II : 7,50 to 9,99 (*4,50-6,39)
ET III : 10.00 to 11,99 (*6,40-7,49)
ET IV : 12,00 to 13,99 (*7,50 – 8,59)
ET V : 14,00 and slower (*8,60 or slower)
(times in brackets are 1/8mile)
Ages ago, when PM was not an official FIA class,
these cars were run under "Advanced ET" safety rules in Hockenheim.
I have heard that in Sweden the ET classes are running under different brackets,
does anyone know how these are ?
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