Toyo R888 Wear?

[Yadizzle1]

Hello everyone, I'm looking at buying some partworn R888's as friends have been raving on an on about them and I thought I may as well give it a shot for £90 a pair (partworn prices)

My question is, the tyres I'm looking at have 2mm of tread left, how fast will they wear down to 1.6 under road driving conditions. I'll mostly be driving along B roads and a bit of motorway, no track use at all.

Or should I be sensible and just keep my money and buy a set of Eagle F1's when mine have worn out?

[Yadizzle1]

To be honest, I'm not looking to go on track any time soon. Just after a grippy "summer" tyre for a bit of hooning here and there, was recommended toyo r888's by a few people.

Wheel size is 15 inches and width is 195 so was looking at Nankang NS2-R's too but apparently Toyo's are a league ahead. I'm probably in the wrong subsection to ask for decent road tyre recommendations then!

BTW the car is a Fiat Panda 100hp so fairly light.

[Yadizzle1]

If they look a bit scabby, they're presumably fked right?

[Yadizzle1]

BritishRacinGrin said:

Why would you even consider putting r888s on a Fiat Panda, let alone barely legal ones? Chasing lap times around the local industrial estate / Mcdonalds car park?

P.S. I've got a couple of pairs of completely worn out tyres you can have for ninety quid

Aha, why not mate, thought I'd give em a try, it's obviously not a TVR or anything but it's a decent handling little hatch. If that can be improved by better tyres, then why wouldn't you?

Before you start taking the piss and saying that "lol it's only a fiat panda it's st ahaha, you're a fking moron" here's an excerpt of evos' review of the Panda 100hp:

Evo Magazine said said:

Next morning we get the chance to point the Panda down our favourite and most challenging Welsh roads. Far from feeling overwhelmed, it rises to the challenge with genuine conviction. Revelling in the give-and-take combinations of crests, dips, right-angle corners and fast, open turns, it shrugs off the changing surfaces and thrives in the challenging conditions. Its enthusiasm for hard driving is as infectious as it is enlightening, not to mention a complete re-education for anyone spoilt by bigger and more powerful machinery (i.e. anyone who works at evo!).

[Yadizzle1]

BritishRacinGrin said:

I do know what a Fiat Panda is.

In what way are absolutely fked tyres 'better'? Do you not see how putting trackday tyres with which have pretty poor water clearance even when new, 0.4mm usable tread left and have probably been boiled to death could possibly not be your brightest moment, especially if you're paying ninety quid a pair for the privilege.

Someone's having you on.

I was asking for advice on if or not I should go ahead with the tyres. Clearly the general concensus is no and so I won't. I appreciate that you and others in the thread have told me not to buy them, and I didn't come on here to ask for advice I was just going to ignore.

And about the whole Fiat Panda bit, I probably did over react a bit so sorry. It's my first car and I absolutely love it, but because it's not the most obvious fun car, I go into full defence mode when someone says bad things about it .

Fwiw, I do take part in road rallies so thought better tyres (than my Eagle F1's) might be beneficial in those and to just have a bit of a laugh in general.

[Yadizzle1]

BritishRacinGrin said:

Yeah what I'm getting at is you're saying the r888s will be better but there's a reason that we have 'ultra high performance road' tyres like the Goodyears and 'track day' tyres like the r888s. On an absolutely dry road with some heat in the r888s might generate slightly better grip. In all other conditions they'll be absolutely inferior to a UHP road tyre. Low grip when cold, low grip on salt/leaves/dirt, low grip when wet, lethal in standing water, stiff, uncomfortable, noisy, probably the wrong size and barely legal.

I say again £90 a pair for any tyre with 0.4mm usable tread left is an absolute joke.

I am jealous, I'd have loved something like that as a first car. Just get some new UHP tyres on it!

All very fair points and recieved! Will just stick with the F1's then, not found them to be lacking yet.

[Yadizzle1]

I'll look into R1r's, I've been told that t1r's have a softish sidewall and I'm noticing some sidwall flex in the F1's.