Holiday Entitlement

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silverfoxcc

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Monday 10th December 2012
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Work as a part time bus driver ,as do about 10 other drivers who do a mixture of 2/3/4 days pw spread over M-F

Currently am working two days a week, so get 2/5ths of annual holiday entitlement of 5.6 weeks ie 11.2 days
Plus Bank/Public holidays paid
New contract arrives and on reading it, it seems i could be losing a lot of holiday
to quote relevant bits

'Holiday year starts 1 Jan ends 31 Dec...part time get pro rata' ( as it is now) so now problems there

The next bit is the worrying part

'Included in the annual holiday entitlement are the following public/bank holidays with pay or alternative days as decided by us

NYD/GF/EM/Early May BH/Late MayBH/Aug BH/ Xmas Day/Boxing Day

As i read it, My working days are Mon and Fri so instead of 11 days i can take off, as now along with the Bhols,next year i will have 5 days talen out of the 11 leaving me with 6 to take off, and instad of a BH being paid in full it will now be paid at 2/5 of a day
The office has said it is to balance up everyone so we all get the same.ie a guy working Tue/Wed was never be paid for a BH but now he will. The problem i see is that except for when Xmas/Boxing day fall on a Tue/Wed he will never (as the new contract is worded) have any of the BH mentioned included in the 11 days entitlement, so he will still get his 11 days to take off

Would i be right in the above, and in order that the contracts are equal to all drivers the phrase
'Included in the annual entitlement...' be replaced by

'In addition to the annual entitlement the following bank/public holidays are included with pay...'

To use an extreme example a driver only works Mons. He will get a pro rata rate holiday entitlement of 1/5 of 5.6 weeks which is 5.6 days of which 4 are bank holidays, so he can only take one monday off during the year. In the years when Xmas/Boxing day fall on a Monday, his holiday entitlement falls to Zero. so no 'two weeks off' in the summer.
Sorry its a bit rambling,am i being paranoid, or picky?

silverfoxcc

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Monday 10th December 2012
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Its the fact we are being told one thing and asking to sign another, also the contracts for the same job are not on a level playing field, a they said they would be

silverfoxcc

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146 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Kevin,the bus i drive is a Minibus used for charity dial a ride work. and only M-F working week, Sats are voluntary. Due to Council charity grants being cut I think that they think that by cutting the Monday drivers BH pay from a full day to (in my case 2/5ths) they will save money, but in drivers days numbers there are more working Tues-Thur than Mon and Fri so it is going to cost them more.
since i have been there the service doesnt work BH, and this will not change next year.
They tell us there will no difference between this year ( 11 days hols plus BH) and next year, But reading the contract, i will get 11 days and ou of that i HAVE to take a day off for each BH) so next year i will have 11-5 BH equals 6 days, so despite what they say the amount of days drops from 11 to 11-5 (6). I am not worried about the pay alterations, in fact was rather surprised that i got full pay for BH, but really dont want to lose the equivalant of two weeks full time holiday

silverfoxcc

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Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Is Realist123 stigsdad son?
both seem rather short of manners

ok let me put this in its simplest terms as it seems the question may be too hard for some people
Holiday entitlement is 5.6 weeks which if you work M-F is 28 days ok?
If you work part time you get the equivelant portion of that as a pro rata basis
Excluding fractions of days that really equates to 5 days holiday per year per day worked
So lets take two upstanding contributors to this topic

Stigsdad and realist123

Stigs dad works one day a week, Monday, therefore he is entitled to 5 days off (Mondays) per year ok? Stig has to take two weeks off in July for his holiday timeshare home. Weeks cannot be changed
Realist also works one day a week ,Tuesday, so he is also entitled to five days (Tuesdays) off per year... still with me? Realist is also in the same position holiday timeshare fixed weeks

Now both contracts state exactly as i have put in the original post, but will repeat it here

'Included in the annual holiday entitement are the following bank holidays........ (4 of which, you will note, are mondays)Stig now has to take these as Compulsory mondays, so stig now has ONE monday left to take off, whilst Realist still has his 5 Tuesdays
Now Stigs holidayshare can only be used for one week in July as he can only have one monday off.
Meanwhile realist can take two tuesdays to take his holiday AND still has three others to take whenever he likes.

When New years day, Xmas day, or Boxing day fall on a monday thats the last monday taken away from stigs 5 days and his holiday home remains empty His 'five days holiday' are the bank holidays which we dont work anyway

Would you suck that up?

And if i could find a job that has the same hours and satisfaction i would ship out tomorrow

As i said, to me its the principal not the money