Racist contractor - pushing me out. Help!
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Been a contractor for a number of years and whilst I have seen many things been seeing a few things wrong with current contract.
The current contract was supposed to be for 6mths, however over the last couple of months there has been a severe lack of working, resulting with me continuously asking for and being denied work. That being said, the guy next to me is still been handed work to do.
Second, I was given my notice yesterday, which seemed inline with the lack of work that we are having. However just been informed that my line manager who gave me this wonderful news has also promised the same job to someone else outside the company. Line manager is white and the new guy is white.
Prior to me going, the interview went well and my current line manager was forced to take me on, he did tell the agency and project manager he did not want anymore Asians but was cornered due to my experience being perfect for the role.
What shall I do?
The big boss is a real fair guy and pretty sure he will listen but I don't want to use the race card or anything, however why would you hire someone who is less experienced than me. This is the only reason, my work has been pretty top notch and I have moved the company forward from where they were.
I work in IT.
The current contract was supposed to be for 6mths, however over the last couple of months there has been a severe lack of working, resulting with me continuously asking for and being denied work. That being said, the guy next to me is still been handed work to do.
Second, I was given my notice yesterday, which seemed inline with the lack of work that we are having. However just been informed that my line manager who gave me this wonderful news has also promised the same job to someone else outside the company. Line manager is white and the new guy is white.
Prior to me going, the interview went well and my current line manager was forced to take me on, he did tell the agency and project manager he did not want anymore Asians but was cornered due to my experience being perfect for the role.
What shall I do?
The big boss is a real fair guy and pretty sure he will listen but I don't want to use the race card or anything, however why would you hire someone who is less experienced than me. This is the only reason, my work has been pretty top notch and I have moved the company forward from where they were.
I work in IT.
Foliage said:
Have a chat with the big boss, dont mention discrimination, but just say you are concerned by the reason for your being replaced and would like to get some clarity on it from him if possible.
TBH most people think they are good at their job, but infact they are mediocre/average, no company will fall apart if 1 person leaves.
Not expecting the company to fall apart or anything. I am very experienced and been told by the same managers that before I arrived things were pretty bad. I am not saying I saved their world or anything, just trying to get the point across that there is no logical reason why they would want to replace me. TBH most people think they are good at their job, but infact they are mediocre/average, no company will fall apart if 1 person leaves.
Asterix said:
This really. There is a possibility it could be racism but without proof it will simply seem like you are playing the race card to keep your job. Also, if there's opportunities of work elsewhere, find somewhere where there aren't dicks.
Cheers dude. Your right. It is a little annoying to think that the colour of my skin would affect my opportunities in this way.elster said:
Personally I would go to the main boss and not the line manager.
I would be asking for feedback. As after initially there being a shortage of work that my contract is being terminated, yet the role is being advertised elsewhere. So would like some feedback on what they thought of your work and what was wrong so that you can work on this.
Yeah i might try and have a quiet word when I see him.I would be asking for feedback. As after initially there being a shortage of work that my contract is being terminated, yet the role is being advertised elsewhere. So would like some feedback on what they thought of your work and what was wrong so that you can work on this.
I just dont get involved in politics, I want to do my work, go running and then go home. Its the first time I have experienced anything like this usually most white people are fair (not being racist). However dont really need to stoop to his level.
I can confirm - line manager is a prick.
One of those - I am in over my head, not a clue whats going on, but in a good gig, so just try and control everyone below me. And if anyone demonstrates he can think I will have to bully them into submission until I control the universe of the digital department department belonging to one of the largest supermarkets.
Shame. The top blokes are brilliant. Spoke to one about his newly acquired M3 which he sold due to not liking it!
One of those - I am in over my head, not a clue whats going on, but in a good gig, so just try and control everyone below me. And if anyone demonstrates he can think I will have to bully them into submission until I control the universe of the digital department department belonging to one of the largest supermarkets.
Shame. The top blokes are brilliant. Spoke to one about his newly acquired M3 which he sold due to not liking it!
Tribal Chestnut said:
Fittster said:
You're a contractor and appear to have an attitude problem with your line manager. Not surprising you aren't being renewed.
He didn't say that his contract wasn't being renewed. His post appears to state early termination of the appointment. You'd do well to get your facts straight before making such bold statements.And just for the record, he only become a prick when he hired a less experienced guy to replace me. It was the project manager who told me, I try and keep out of politics and so my suspicions were confirmed about the racist slant.
Piersman2 said:
AndStilliRise said:
I can confirm - line manager is a prick.
One of those - I am in over my head, not a clue whats going on, but in a good gig, so just try and control everyone below me. And if anyone demonstrates he can think I will have to bully them into submission until I control the universe of the digital department department belonging to one of the largest supermarkets.
Shame. The top blokes are brilliant. Spoke to one about his newly acquired M3 which he sold due to not liking it!
I've just left a role where my experience was completely the reverse to yours. I was the white face being pushed out to be replaced with indian imports.One of those - I am in over my head, not a clue whats going on, but in a good gig, so just try and control everyone below me. And if anyone demonstrates he can think I will have to bully them into submission until I control the universe of the digital department department belonging to one of the largest supermarkets.
Shame. The top blokes are brilliant. Spoke to one about his newly acquired M3 which he sold due to not liking it!
And the reason is not so much to do with money or race but the reasons you've described above. The Indian fellas kind of have no choice but to kowtow to the 2 managers of the service department I was working in, the indigenous contractors would front them up a bit more and question the idiocy of the edicts coming from above. The 2 managers, who were completely out of their knowledge zone, bullied anyone that didn't slavishly follow their stupidity.
Result, less local contractors, more imported Indian guys. The Indian guys have my genuine sympathies being stuck there.
I'm having 2 weeks off before starting my next contract, the market seems buoyant at the moment, so just move on, it's not worth loosing sleep over. Sometimes your face just doesn't fit, and it's not necessarily down to colour, maybe you're just an argumentative, grumpy bugger like me.
Best of luck!
Work and running - that's all i need to keep me going!
PH - has actually made me feel ok!
Thanks fellas,
Got an update if anyone wants to hear it?
So agreed to the termination of contract, which the line manager thought was 2 weeks. It was actually 4 weeks. Line manager basically s
t himself and knew that he now had to get this new guy in and interviewed.
Rumor is he has been telling his colleagues that he is leaving to join this agency.
Come forward Big Boss. Had a chat with him this morning, absolute top bloke. Asked him what was going on and he said we had to make cuts, mentioned that line manager and project manager were planning to start interviewing people for my replacement and said that was not going to happen. No way, no budget. Drags the line manager into a meeting room and gives him both barrels.
And that ladies and gentlemen is how its done. Line manager is sitting in the corner licking his wounds and I have my guns (arms) blazing. Now to enjoy running London.
So agreed to the termination of contract, which the line manager thought was 2 weeks. It was actually 4 weeks. Line manager basically s
t himself and knew that he now had to get this new guy in and interviewed. Rumor is he has been telling his colleagues that he is leaving to join this agency.
Come forward Big Boss. Had a chat with him this morning, absolute top bloke. Asked him what was going on and he said we had to make cuts, mentioned that line manager and project manager were planning to start interviewing people for my replacement and said that was not going to happen. No way, no budget. Drags the line manager into a meeting room and gives him both barrels.
And that ladies and gentlemen is how its done. Line manager is sitting in the corner licking his wounds and I have my guns (arms) blazing. Now to enjoy running London.
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Breadvan72 said:
If the manager really said no more Asians then the OP may have a claim under the Equality Act, and for this purpose it matters not that the OP is not an employee. How strong is the evidence that the manager said no more Asians?
Nothing written down, just hear-say.The line manager is a coward. I sent an email confirming the last day in which I took down the PM and Line manager. Copied Big Boss.
Did the reply? Did they F
They cant even look at my face. I own them. They tried to screw me for there own benefit and what happened?
They are F now. Now they got me until November and deadlines to hit. Cant say I am that keen to help.
PM is getting a blasting now from big boss. And I am loving it.
Fastpedeller said:
Unfortunately these things happen, and you just have to move on in the best possible way - not ideal I know. I was on a contract several years ago, and there was a 'personality clash' for want of a better phrase.... my supervisor was a staunch football fan (I am not a football fan/player or anything in any way football, just not my thing) he picked up on this (I was just neutral) and was to put it mildly a bd. When it came to my departure, another dept in the same building were interested in me, but he wouldn't give a reference. They interviewed me though, and broached the subject asking why do you think *** wouldn't give you a reference. I just said 'I think he has personality issues - it made him feel better I guess' and I got the job. Seems he made a habit of acting like this, and was known for it, and any 'victim' was seen as that - shame is that nobody would do anything about it.
Thanks.d. When it came to my departure, another dept in the same building were interested in me, but he wouldn't give a reference. They interviewed me though, and broached the subject asking why do you think *** wouldn't give you a reference. I just said 'I think he has personality issues - it made him feel better I guess' and I got the job. Seems he made a habit of acting like this, and was known for it, and any 'victim' was seen as that - shame is that nobody would do anything about it.Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff