Annual leave refused. What's allowed?
Discussion
This year the company informed all employees this will be the first year annual entitlement won't be allowed to carry on if not used. All days must be used before the year is out. I'm Ok with that and we warned months ago about this.
However I've saved and had time off at Christmas and New Year requested for months now. I've saved the holidays all year to use for this period.
Today I've been informed I'm not going to be allowed the leave.
This is a pain for numerous reasons. I've got plans and this is a bit late notice. It also matches up with her holidays.
I've still been requested to use the holidays up before the year is out. I have no alternative plans and using up annual leave for no reason is just a waste.
If I knew this was the case months ago, I could have planned to use the days off constructively. The goalposts have been moved late on leaving me with the prospect of having a week off in the next 3 weeks.
There's nothing in my contract about length of notice required. The word reasonable is used, but no definition of how long is reasonable.
I don't think this is reasonable given the circumstances.
However I've saved and had time off at Christmas and New Year requested for months now. I've saved the holidays all year to use for this period.
Today I've been informed I'm not going to be allowed the leave.
This is a pain for numerous reasons. I've got plans and this is a bit late notice. It also matches up with her holidays.
I've still been requested to use the holidays up before the year is out. I have no alternative plans and using up annual leave for no reason is just a waste.
If I knew this was the case months ago, I could have planned to use the days off constructively. The goalposts have been moved late on leaving me with the prospect of having a week off in the next 3 weeks.
There's nothing in my contract about length of notice required. The word reasonable is used, but no definition of how long is reasonable.
I don't think this is reasonable given the circumstances.
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 1st December 03:15
I should have stressed that carrying holidays forward isn't in our contract either. They have openly allowed a maximum of 5 days to be carried forward, but we knew this wasn't guaranteed.
This is the first time they've clamped down and not allowing it. They did let us know that this favour was being removed to give us time to use our holiday.
This is the first time they've clamped down and not allowing it. They did let us know that this favour was being removed to give us time to use our holiday.
All our holidays are booked through an online system.
My boss is really bad in that he only ever approves the holidays on a month by month basis, not at the time they are requested.
I'd put in for these holidays months ago, but like always he waited until the end of November to look at December holidays.
He does the same every month, then always approves them.
I appreciate the use them or lose them idea, I also understand about holidays at the company's discretion due to needs, however I feel after giving months of notice, made my Christmas and New year plans, only to have it ruined at 3 weeks notice isn't fair. They've had ample time to cater for business needs.
I work on a 3x8 hour Mon-Fri shift pattern. There's seven of us in a similar role and the company wants at least 50% of people in.
My holiday entitlement this year was 8 statutory holidays, which include 25th and 28th Dec, then the 1st and 4th of Jan. I also had 28 days of holidays, which I've saved for the Christmas period off.
My boss is really bad in that he only ever approves the holidays on a month by month basis, not at the time they are requested.
I'd put in for these holidays months ago, but like always he waited until the end of November to look at December holidays.
He does the same every month, then always approves them.
I appreciate the use them or lose them idea, I also understand about holidays at the company's discretion due to needs, however I feel after giving months of notice, made my Christmas and New year plans, only to have it ruined at 3 weeks notice isn't fair. They've had ample time to cater for business needs.
I work on a 3x8 hour Mon-Fri shift pattern. There's seven of us in a similar role and the company wants at least 50% of people in.
My holiday entitlement this year was 8 statutory holidays, which include 25th and 28th Dec, then the 1st and 4th of Jan. I also had 28 days of holidays, which I've saved for the Christmas period off.
I've saved 4 days and planned to have Christmas eve off, then with the statutory holidays I'd be right off until the 5th Jan.
I spoke to my boss the other day to make it clear I needed it.
Although I don't have an official agreement, I share care with my ex with my daughter. It's every other weekend and I take her during holidays too.
I'm also 2.5-3 hours away from her home, so it's not as if I can nip back and forward from work and make the best of it.
I spoke to my boss the other day to make it clear I needed it.
Although I don't have an official agreement, I share care with my ex with my daughter. It's every other weekend and I take her during holidays too.
I'm also 2.5-3 hours away from her home, so it's not as if I can nip back and forward from work and make the best of it.
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