A great but at the same time horrible position...
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currently working for company A.
interview at company B which could be a good move for me, but offer me the same money i currently earn,
i think about it and accept new role.
tell boss at company A (just me, him and 3 other guys) and he offers me 4k more to stay.
company B offer to match the extra money.
company B, 1 week into my months notice, has now re-offered me a 6k pay rise!
thats is the very very short version of the story as i know people get bored reading paragraphs. Obviously the 6k rise is very tempting but i also feel bad for company B for 1. offering to match the money then 2. letting them down at this short notice
I know i need to look after myself but I am so 50/50 again. frustrating as i was set on the job until this 2nd rise offer come in.
company B have loved to get me in since the 8 months ago so they must want me quite bad, likewise company A have been throwing pay rises at me tempting me to stay.
A is certainly an easier life at the moment. hours are good and theres no politics etc, B will be longer hours i believe and no doubt more politics but possibly a better move for my career.
Any advice on how to proceed and decide?
interview at company B which could be a good move for me, but offer me the same money i currently earn,
i think about it and accept new role.
tell boss at company A (just me, him and 3 other guys) and he offers me 4k more to stay.
company B offer to match the extra money.
company B, 1 week into my months notice, has now re-offered me a 6k pay rise!
thats is the very very short version of the story as i know people get bored reading paragraphs. Obviously the 6k rise is very tempting but i also feel bad for company B for 1. offering to match the money then 2. letting them down at this short notice
I know i need to look after myself but I am so 50/50 again. frustrating as i was set on the job until this 2nd rise offer come in.
company B have loved to get me in since the 8 months ago so they must want me quite bad, likewise company A have been throwing pay rises at me tempting me to stay.
A is certainly an easier life at the moment. hours are good and theres no politics etc, B will be longer hours i believe and no doubt more politics but possibly a better move for my career.
Any advice on how to proceed and decide?
Woah, thankyou for all the great replies, didn't think I'd get much help.
I guess from a 3rd part yiew, its a very simple decision. I wont bore you with the full details but it is slightly more complex in that company A have told me from day one that when he sells the company I would get a good percentage as I was the second to join the firm. although this isn't in writing, I 100% trust him to fulfil that if I stay. A's offer is 38k a year, a good 6k above the average pay IMO, company B is 36k after 3 months probationary period.
SG- that is my worry!
bullet- very true but it feels different when an offer is put in front of you.
andy- frustration is certainly one of the reasons, he is quite disorganised and as we grow I know it wil be our downfall.
emeye- probably stay on the 38k for quite a while but as above, its very good pay for my role.
toxic- its my issue, I tend to get bored, i leave places hoping for great things but I still end up getting bored. money is never enough lol.
deckster- well A is stating id be coming off of the tools so you could say my entire role would change, current role is tedious.
spock- he has been totally fine with me, he completely understands why I looked as he used to be in my position working for others. I don't think hes going to replace me oddly.
iroc- very vslid point and one I totally agree on.
foliage- not entirely sure I follow you,
as for the literacy, its what I do with my hands not my writing skills that makes me employable ;-). That and the fact I wrote the op on my mobile at the café which is extremely painful to do as the text box jumps around, after correcting a few errors I lost patience and posted awaiting the grammar police. I see their on duty today.
I guess from a 3rd part yiew, its a very simple decision. I wont bore you with the full details but it is slightly more complex in that company A have told me from day one that when he sells the company I would get a good percentage as I was the second to join the firm. although this isn't in writing, I 100% trust him to fulfil that if I stay. A's offer is 38k a year, a good 6k above the average pay IMO, company B is 36k after 3 months probationary period.
SG- that is my worry!
bullet- very true but it feels different when an offer is put in front of you.
andy- frustration is certainly one of the reasons, he is quite disorganised and as we grow I know it wil be our downfall.
emeye- probably stay on the 38k for quite a while but as above, its very good pay for my role.
toxic- its my issue, I tend to get bored, i leave places hoping for great things but I still end up getting bored. money is never enough lol.
deckster- well A is stating id be coming off of the tools so you could say my entire role would change, current role is tedious.
spock- he has been totally fine with me, he completely understands why I looked as he used to be in my position working for others. I don't think hes going to replace me oddly.
iroc- very vslid point and one I totally agree on.
foliage- not entirely sure I follow you,
as for the literacy, its what I do with my hands not my writing skills that makes me employable ;-). That and the fact I wrote the op on my mobile at the café which is extremely painful to do as the text box jumps around, after correcting a few errors I lost patience and posted awaiting the grammar police. I see their on duty today.
Thankyou once again. what seems such a cloudy decision for me is crystal clear from your perspective!.
I spoke with my partner and a few trusted family and have decided I will go still. If i throw myself into this new role, the rewards could be much greater.
The overwhelming decision that swayed it is when I sit here and imagine myself agreeing to stay i feel disappointed.
I shall try and remember to update this in a few months with how its progressing :-)
Royce
I spoke with my partner and a few trusted family and have decided I will go still. If i throw myself into this new role, the rewards could be much greater.
The overwhelming decision that swayed it is when I sit here and imagine myself agreeing to stay i feel disappointed.
I shall try and remember to update this in a few months with how its progressing :-)
Royce
Timely reply lol
Well I started last week and to be honest it's been a mistake so far. I've done nothing but sit in the office waiting for work.
I spoke of my concerns and they said they'll put me out with another guy till my own work picks up but yet here I am in the office again. I have offered to help the sales team and generally get stuck in learning procedures so I'm prepared but nothing.
They Ly know I'm bored as I'm currently writing this next to my boss lol. Not exactly the situation I envisaged from the interview.
I did contact my old boss about a return which he welcomed but immediately had doubts so I'm going to stick it a bit more as they apparently have a big job coming up in November time.
On paper this job is the one, reality is different for now.
Royce
Well I started last week and to be honest it's been a mistake so far. I've done nothing but sit in the office waiting for work.
I spoke of my concerns and they said they'll put me out with another guy till my own work picks up but yet here I am in the office again. I have offered to help the sales team and generally get stuck in learning procedures so I'm prepared but nothing.
They Ly know I'm bored as I'm currently writing this next to my boss lol. Not exactly the situation I envisaged from the interview.
I did contact my old boss about a return which he welcomed but immediately had doubts so I'm going to stick it a bit more as they apparently have a big job coming up in November time.
On paper this job is the one, reality is different for now.
Royce
Well, as promised, I said I'm would update my situation after the 3 months.
Nothing's changed really, I'm still unhappy here. I actually went to an interview mid-December but turned down the offer due to the long hours meaning I wouldnt see my boy all week.
I don't want to list all of the reasons as I'd be here all night and you'd get bored.
They are by far the laziest, most disorganised, b
hy firm I've ever worked for. No procedures, no real direction with the branch, the engineers have got a "I'll do the bare minimum to get paid" attitude which is killing me.
We currently have no work so I'm sitting in the office twiddling my thumbs waiting for the sales guy opposite me to bring the work in. I mentioned to my manager I need a piece of test equipment to which he said he will process it with our head branch, I offered to chase this for him and he flipped out accusing me of undermining him, then a junior engineer started mouthing off to me and my manager just sat their and let him rant on.
The 2 main engineers are the managers sons so I can't really talk to him on their enthusiasm. The manager himself is clearly not good at his job but his boss, who owns the firm way up in manchester doesn't see the day to day events.
Whilst the extra money is good, I definitely regret leaving my old job.
Think I may well go on the hunt.
Royce
Nothing's changed really, I'm still unhappy here. I actually went to an interview mid-December but turned down the offer due to the long hours meaning I wouldnt see my boy all week.
I don't want to list all of the reasons as I'd be here all night and you'd get bored.
They are by far the laziest, most disorganised, b
hy firm I've ever worked for. No procedures, no real direction with the branch, the engineers have got a "I'll do the bare minimum to get paid" attitude which is killing me.We currently have no work so I'm sitting in the office twiddling my thumbs waiting for the sales guy opposite me to bring the work in. I mentioned to my manager I need a piece of test equipment to which he said he will process it with our head branch, I offered to chase this for him and he flipped out accusing me of undermining him, then a junior engineer started mouthing off to me and my manager just sat their and let him rant on.
The 2 main engineers are the managers sons so I can't really talk to him on their enthusiasm. The manager himself is clearly not good at his job but his boss, who owns the firm way up in manchester doesn't see the day to day events.
Whilst the extra money is good, I definitely regret leaving my old job.
Think I may well go on the hunt.
Royce
Well thats that.
Handed my notice in today. The final nail in the coffin was the fact the entire team of engineers was sat around a ps4 on monday as we had no work. Im truly baffled as to how this company make money!
The new job is the same industry but rather than working on the service side. I will be working for a manufacturer instead. Essentially its technical support majority of the time but i will be regularly required to give training on our equipment around the UK and even worldwide too. Such a different role to what ive done for 11 years so hopes are high.
Handed my notice in today. The final nail in the coffin was the fact the entire team of engineers was sat around a ps4 on monday as we had no work. Im truly baffled as to how this company make money!
The new job is the same industry but rather than working on the service side. I will be working for a manufacturer instead. Essentially its technical support majority of the time but i will be regularly required to give training on our equipment around the UK and even worldwide too. Such a different role to what ive done for 11 years so hopes are high.
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