Pay rise advice
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Hi Guys
I am looking for some advice.
I have been the fitness manager of a large West London sports club for the past 13 years.
I actually started on the same day as the general manager in 2013 and we get on very well.
In December a colleague left the company and at the time the GM said that I would get a pay rise as we were not replacing the member of staff that left.
I think I have only had one or two pay rises (small) in my whole time at the Club.
I e-mailed in January and again in February and had no reply.
I discussed it briefly with him in person but it gets brushed under the carpet.
I have just put this e-mail together, is it to strong??:
Dear....
I hope you are well.
Following on from the e-mail sent on the 23/01/2017 and again mentioned in the e-mail on the 01/02/2017, I am yet to hear from you regarding a pay rise.
If I let you know my position it may make your decision easier.
The bottom line is that unfortunately I can no longer afford to work for .................. on my current salary; my outgoings are greater than my earnings.
To continue my role at the Club I require a 20% pay rise.
I fully understand if this is not possible but as soon as I know I can begin the search for new employment.
As I am sure you are aware, for as long as I can remember my work at the Club has far exceeded that of my title and expected duties within the capacity of my role.
I look forward to a reply.
Regards
Paul
The GM is very aware that my contribution to the Club is well beyond what is expected.
Any advice is much appreciated, I have not sent the e-mail yet.
Thank you
I am looking for some advice.
I have been the fitness manager of a large West London sports club for the past 13 years.
I actually started on the same day as the general manager in 2013 and we get on very well.
In December a colleague left the company and at the time the GM said that I would get a pay rise as we were not replacing the member of staff that left.
I think I have only had one or two pay rises (small) in my whole time at the Club.
I e-mailed in January and again in February and had no reply.
I discussed it briefly with him in person but it gets brushed under the carpet.
I have just put this e-mail together, is it to strong??:
Dear....
I hope you are well.
Following on from the e-mail sent on the 23/01/2017 and again mentioned in the e-mail on the 01/02/2017, I am yet to hear from you regarding a pay rise.
If I let you know my position it may make your decision easier.
The bottom line is that unfortunately I can no longer afford to work for .................. on my current salary; my outgoings are greater than my earnings.
To continue my role at the Club I require a 20% pay rise.
I fully understand if this is not possible but as soon as I know I can begin the search for new employment.
As I am sure you are aware, for as long as I can remember my work at the Club has far exceeded that of my title and expected duties within the capacity of my role.
I look forward to a reply.
Regards
Paul
The GM is very aware that my contribution to the Club is well beyond what is expected.
Any advice is much appreciated, I have not sent the e-mail yet.
Thank you
Edited by TROOPER88 on Wednesday 1st March 07:30
Hi
Thank you to all that have contributed so far.
The work I carry out is well beyond my job spec and description and the GM is aware of this.
As an example we have a very large plant room for the running of the pool and showers etc. It is very dated and is run with steam.
I know the plant room better than anyone and have 'rescued' the Club many times. This is not part of he role I was employed for; well beyond it in fact.
This is just one example...
We are such good friends that if I mention it in person (which I have done a few times) it turns more into a joke than being taken seriously tbh.
With regard providing examples of similar roles out there, we are a very unique, one of private members Club.
I understand the points about being too aggressive so will try and tone it down slightly. I think the bit about seeking a 20% pay rise is the aggressive part but this is the crux of the matter...
Thank you to all that have contributed so far.
The work I carry out is well beyond my job spec and description and the GM is aware of this.
As an example we have a very large plant room for the running of the pool and showers etc. It is very dated and is run with steam.
I know the plant room better than anyone and have 'rescued' the Club many times. This is not part of he role I was employed for; well beyond it in fact.
This is just one example...
We are such good friends that if I mention it in person (which I have done a few times) it turns more into a joke than being taken seriously tbh.
With regard providing examples of similar roles out there, we are a very unique, one of private members Club.
I understand the points about being too aggressive so will try and tone it down slightly. I think the bit about seeking a 20% pay rise is the aggressive part but this is the crux of the matter...
ReallyReallyGood said:
Agree with doing it face to face, a quick chat.
Just say you feel undervalued for the work you do (outline what this is), and that market rate for your role is £X (where you've researched what X is). No threats or ultimatums at this point, perhaps save that for if your request is rejected.
This.Just say you feel undervalued for the work you do (outline what this is), and that market rate for your role is £X (where you've researched what X is). No threats or ultimatums at this point, perhaps save that for if your request is rejected.
I am going to e-mail the GM now and ask for a meeting tomorrow morning to discuss a pay rise.
I will go into the meeting with all my facts and why I feel I deserve a pay rise.
If this fails to materialise I will then go down the mail route in a week or so.
Thanks
FrankAbagnale said:
Id probably build a bit more of a case for a pay rise...
Dear xxx,
I am writing in relation to my current remuneration and would request a meeting to discuss the possibility of a increase in pay.
I have worked for XX Leisure for 13 years and my current job title is xxxxxx and responsibilities entail xxxxxx xxx xxxxx. For a considerable period of time and more so since xxxx left his/her role I have assumed greater responsibilities of a more senior job role.
Through my research I can see that the average salary in this area for a xxxxxx is £xxxxx and I believe the responsibilities in this role encompasses my position.
When xxxx left their role I was informed verbally that due to increase in workload and responsibility I would receive a pay rise. I have chased this a couple of times with emails on xx and xx but am yet to receive a response.
I thoroughly enjoy working at XX Leisure and have been a loyal, hardworking, reliable member of staff for 13 years and very much hope I can continue. However, without a significant payrise that reflects my current skillset and responsibilities, I will have to consider my options.
That Sir is brilliant.Dear xxx,
I am writing in relation to my current remuneration and would request a meeting to discuss the possibility of a increase in pay.
I have worked for XX Leisure for 13 years and my current job title is xxxxxx and responsibilities entail xxxxxx xxx xxxxx. For a considerable period of time and more so since xxxx left his/her role I have assumed greater responsibilities of a more senior job role.
Through my research I can see that the average salary in this area for a xxxxxx is £xxxxx and I believe the responsibilities in this role encompasses my position.
When xxxx left their role I was informed verbally that due to increase in workload and responsibility I would receive a pay rise. I have chased this a couple of times with emails on xx and xx but am yet to receive a response.
I thoroughly enjoy working at XX Leisure and have been a loyal, hardworking, reliable member of staff for 13 years and very much hope I can continue. However, without a significant payrise that reflects my current skillset and responsibilities, I will have to consider my options.
Edited by FrankAbagnale on Wednesday 1st March 09:06
I could possibly write this and take it into the meeting with me?
I will also write about my duties and increased workload etc
Thank you
Hi
Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
Hi
I had a coffee and a good chat with the GM yesterday morning and expressed my concern regarding this issue.
He said that decisions of this nature he had to put to the Club's director and accountant when they next meet (after he has done the annual accounts).
Plausible or not, I have made my feelings very clear and he has assured me he is taking the case seriously and will put a strong case forward on my behalf.
The matter is not as simple as it appears. The Club is in financial difficulty due to overspending many years ago.
I enjoy my job here and develop property part time so do not want to shoot myself in the foot and leave a good job; I just feel that I should be paid more than I currently am. If I can do another 2-3 years here I will then move into the property thing in a full time capacity.
I will update next month. Thank you.
I had a coffee and a good chat with the GM yesterday morning and expressed my concern regarding this issue.
He said that decisions of this nature he had to put to the Club's director and accountant when they next meet (after he has done the annual accounts).
Plausible or not, I have made my feelings very clear and he has assured me he is taking the case seriously and will put a strong case forward on my behalf.
The matter is not as simple as it appears. The Club is in financial difficulty due to overspending many years ago.
I enjoy my job here and develop property part time so do not want to shoot myself in the foot and leave a good job; I just feel that I should be paid more than I currently am. If I can do another 2-3 years here I will then move into the property thing in a full time capacity.
I will update next month. Thank you.
Hi Guys
I do not like it when people start a topic and do not see it through to completion without an update, so here you are!
The GM e-mailed me as promised at the end of March asking me in for a meeting.
He went through all the pay rises that I have had since I began at the company in 2003.
2005: 6%
2007: 5%
2008: 7%
2010: 5%
2014: 5%
2017: 15%!!
I am very pleased.
Thank you to all that contributed
I do not like it when people start a topic and do not see it through to completion without an update, so here you are!
The GM e-mailed me as promised at the end of March asking me in for a meeting.
He went through all the pay rises that I have had since I began at the company in 2003.
2005: 6%
2007: 5%
2008: 7%
2010: 5%
2014: 5%
2017: 15%!!
I am very pleased.
Thank you to all that contributed
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