X6 M50d ?

[Kananga]

Has anyone driven one ? We used to have a 40d and on paper the M50d seems a lot more powerful (about 30% up on power + torque)?

Been thinking of buying a Cayenne Diesel but have always had a soft spot for BMW's moon buggy....

Don't mean to start a debate about whether the M-Performance models are real //M cars - if this post belongs in the General BMW section, maybe one of the mods could please move it.

[Kananga]

AreOut said:

No debate as they are not, but at least I don't mind even if it was a 3.0d

[Kananga]

thegreatdogwood said:

Did you know that there is a Cayenne 4.2 V8 diesel being launched in November

Yup, I had heard either the 4.2 or a bi-turbo 3.0. Either way, as assuming a vw unit of some kind ?

My sense is that BMW has been more advanced in terms of diesel engine design. The new tri-turbo has some impressive stats.

My assumption was that the cayenne will have a hefty price tag (>£70k with some spec?)

[Kananga]

Eastern boy said:

Big difference to drive over 40d, which may seem difficult to imagine, but power and torque is just immense.

I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.

Greg

I tend to agree with you Greg.

Out of curiosity, would a car with comfort access be less likely to be stolen via OBD-reprogrammed keys ?

[Kananga]

Eastern boy said:

I maintain that irrospective of security if a thief wants your car he will get it, some how anyway. It does seem regional, to north of england and london area, however it doesnt seem unique to BMW.

I see previously posts of threatening to write adverse publicity?? Do you think that will help? Surely that will only serve to slow down the thoughts of people buying M cars, then affecting re sale values, as well as insurance premiums???

Maybe best option is a tracker and a secondary imobiliser??? Unless of course you have an X5 with £18,000 of damage, in which case leave it open with a spare key in it!!!!!

G

Agree that "where-there's-a-will" and all that, but if there is a genuine deficiency in the security of these cars, I don't buy the argument that trackers (or any other customer-paid remedy) is the solution.

Frankly it's down to the manufacturer to address it. Sorry to be candid, and I'm a huge fan of the brand.

Reminds me a bit of the criticism Porsche got for the alleged design flaw in the intermediate shaft that led to a high rate of catastrophic engine failures. Lots of vocal disappointment with Porsche as a manufacturer and they clearly recognised the issue (eg. Warranty extension costs rocketed up, goodwill gestures reduced). Anyway, ultimately it doesn't seem to have affected 996/997 sales. Maybe we don't vote with our wallets as much as we should.

[Kananga]

Eastern boy said:

It does seem regional, to north of england and london area, however it doesnt seem unique to BMW.
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Maybe best option is a tracker and a secondary imobiliser???

G

Another dealer mentioned the same thing to me (about thefts being common to Merc/Audi as well as BMW). From the media/Internet chatter, it does seem to be focussed on BMW. If it is as common to other makes, feels like BMW has gotten harsh/unfair treatment.

More importantly Greg, I'd be really interested in your position as a dealer, especially as I'm interested in ordering an X6 M50d. Specifically, are Eastern happy to install secondary immobilisers without affecting warrnties, etc ? From the main thread in the General BMW section, I saw that some dealers have installed in-line switches and/or relocated the OBD ports for customers. Interested to know if you guys would offer that to customers too ? Reason for me question is that the more I read, the less I would be comfortable buying a car without this issue being addressed.

[Kananga]

Also, back on topic, I read in the brochure that the engine is largely assembled by hand in Munich due to "limited build numbers and other special requirements".

Not sure whether this is marketing spin, but I'd be interested to know what the other special requirements are, in case anyone knows...

Greg - this is all consistent with your feedback about lead times potentially being much longer than for the other diesel engines.

[Kananga]

Upyoursgordon said:

Hi All
My first post here but thought I might add to the forum as I have found itninteresting.
I take delivery of my X6 M50d this saturday.Ordered this car on the 10th feb so a very long wait! but hopefully worth it.
Fully loaded but not comfort access.Carbon Black with Oyster/black interior.This was the first M50d the dealer has seen .not much sleep until then!!

I may be picking one up sometime during the week so will be interesting to compare notes!!! Was tempted to order one new but then a low mile example came up that I couldn't passs up!

[Kananga]

Upyoursgordon said:

I don't blame you...... Lucky to get hold of one! I will post an update once I've had a play!
What spec does yours have?

Look forward to it!

I'll double check in the morning but I think it has a fairly high spec with many of the options in the price list ticked.

[Kananga]

sunnydude959 said:

I have the individual audio system too, which is awesome

Likewise and totally agree.

[Kananga]

Thanks! We ended up buying one in 2012. <400 mls and the first buyer had ticked almost every box on the option list (list price was c.£96k!).

We've been running it as our family car since and it has been amazing. Still feels amazingly quick, and us v well suited to the ZF 8-Speed auto.

Just debating whether to change it for something else. Only issue is that we've been spoilt with such an amazing spec car, so will be difficult to find something equivalent!