Running an F10 M5 out of warranty

[TheAngryDog]

Would this be brave or stupid?

[TheAngryDog]

Wills2 said:

Depends, have you owned the car from new? Serviced on the button, kept the engine stock etc...? It's a strong reliable car if looked after.

Mine ran like a dream over 31k but I'll admit it was brand new, I've heard no horror stories on stock cars loads of people running big power without issues as well.

But if it's a 2nd hand one the only issue you have is not knowing how it was treated before you got it.

Nope, would be a second hand purchase. It's either one of these, a C6 RS6 or rebuild the engine on my E39

[TheAngryDog]

rb5er said:

You sound like a gambling man.

I do enjoy a flutter.

[TheAngryDog]

Thanks for your replies guys.

I think if I were to get one I'd want a warranty, just in case, so that is off the table for now!

[TheAngryDog]

Welshbeef said:

TheAngryDog said:

Thanks for your replies guys.

I think if I were to get one I'd want a warranty, just in case, so that is off the table for now!

Your current fleet says M5 which series is it? E34

E39.

[TheAngryDog]

akirk said:

Patrick Bateman said:

Mind that's an e60 he went for in the end, not an F10.

true - F10 might have been better...

Possibly, but the failure wasn't the cars fault. I cannot legislate for vandalism done to my engine on purpose, and nor is that the cars fault. Unless of course no one told the guy I used that you should not take a hammer to the oil pump?

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Welshbeef said:

TheAngryDog said:

Possibly, but the failure wasn't the cars fault. I cannot legislate for vandalism done to my engine on purpose, and nor is that the cars fault. Unless of course no one told the guy I used that you should not take a hammer to the oil pump?

How close is it to being back on the road?
It’s a very very special engine doubt we will see another like it.

It is slated for April 13th.

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TobyTR said:

TheAngryDog said:

It is slated for April 13th.

Sorry to hear and best wishes with it going forwards. I read your thread from start-to-finish, it really is a special car (when everything works). It sounds like you were very unlucky considering all the preventative maintenance you were carrying out on it

All the best and looking forward to future updates on it

Cheers! I was very unlucky, but it is what it is. I used the wrong guy, I didn't know he was the wrong guy at the time mind! I'll have a "Phoenix from the ashes" type readers rides post at some point again.

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Patrick Bateman said:

Jesus I didn't think they were that low yet.

An M5 is never going to be cheap to run but surely these don't have the biblical bork potential of the E60?

Depends. Quite a few have been tuned so turbos are going to become an issue at some point. Injectors are known to cause issues, rod bearings aren't unheard of.

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Welshbeef said:

TheAngryDog said:

Depends. Quite a few have been tuned so turbos are going to become an issue at some point. Injectors are known to cause issues, rod bearings aren't unheard of.

If you buy used and it has Full BMWSH but has no BMW warranty.

You buy it put warranty on it BMW warranty but unknowing to you it used to be tuned (or still is) then something goes wrong- bang. How does that sit with the warranty provider?

They will probably throw the claim out.

Patrick Bateman said:

TheAngryDog said:

Depends. Quite a few have been tuned so turbos are going to become an issue at some point. Injectors are known to cause issues, rod bearings aren't unheard of.

Has there been an M5 where these aren't mentioned?

Curious if the odd forum post warrants the attention for it to be 'a known issue' though.

According to Mr Vanos tuned ones seem to suffer the worst. He's currently rebuilding one with a new crank.

[TheAngryDog]

bmwmike said:

Welshbeef said:

Is it?
Surely engine turbos gearbox rod bearings are the key /£20k key territory

Whereas the rest of the cover would be indifferent to any F10.

5k claim limit with driveline. Not going to go very far. Full comp covers almost everything including wear and tear up to price paid for the car.

Two turbos and labour are going to exceed 5k easily. As you say, drive line is pointless.

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Welshbeef said:

bmwmike said:

Welshbeef said:

Be aware sadly one memeber here his engine is ruined and cost upwards of £20k. Warranty company don’t want to know.

Different m5, and that was a non bmw warranty.

There are 2x M5 engine failure threads here

AngryMan poster has the E60 with ruined engine
Another chap has the F10 M5 with ruined engine and a big legal issue with a certain warranty company who apparently will not pay out.

Do you mean me? My E60 didn't have a warranty with an aftermarket company, it was with the company who did the work, which wasn't worth the paper is was never written on.

[TheAngryDog]

I am currently feeling brave. When my E60 returns and is run in, I'll be putting it up for sale and looking at getting an F10, without warranty.