E46 Purchase

E46 Purchase

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Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Quite fancy a E46 M as a classic that can sit alongside my Volvo 123gt. The BMW will be a 2002/3 car with 100,000 miles + but under the 150k. I will be paying around £8000.
Of course I have read about the rear mounting points on the BMW and understand that the cracking of these components is inherent in the design flaw but can be fixed. I would imagine that cars that have been fixed will have documentation that validates the repairs.mWould BMW have the cars that they have repaired be recorded on a database?
In the event that I find a car to purchase that has for some reason not been repaired how much money should I factor in for repairs. Of course I could walk away and find an alternative to purchase.

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Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Thank you pidsey much appreciated, and I will certainly keep in mind the cylinder test.

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Wednesday 16th November 2016
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That's a fair old list but no more than I should expect from a car that will be around 14 years young! I will certainly bear in mind those issues when I go inspecting, which is likely very soon.

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Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Thanks for comment/advise. I will definitely be looking for a manual gear box car, seems that however 'nice' the car looks it will be getting a proper going over.

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Thursday 17th November 2016
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krisdelta said:
Even now they're getting a bit old, it's still a very well engineered car once you get past the subframe issue. Really rewarding to drive and a very addictive noise. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Our lad wanted me to go for an M5, obviously a fabulous car but the budget starts to creep at an alarming rate ! As it is I have already lifted my budget to 10k, an additional 2k from original. Scanning the ad's though it seems the extra 2k is neither here or there such is the wide pricing structure on these cars.
Googling brought up a couple of really helpful road test video's which confirmed my choice as the e46 model. Can't wait to get out there for a look!
Meanwhile can you advise what the parts availability is like, body parts and mechanical. Thank you.

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Thursday 17th November 2016
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^^^^^^
Very encouraging, thanks again. As an aside it's amazing that I can source virtually any mechanical or body part for my Volvo 123gt, that's a 1968 car, production finished about 1971 or so!!

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Thursday 17th November 2016
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I have raised my budget from an original 8k but now raised it to 10k . The slightly higher budget opens up the choice available, I am also prepared to travel for the right car.

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Friday 18th November 2016
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Massive thanks to all contributers for some really good advise. My hunt has thus far been confined to the ad' s, I have noticed that it's a tiny % that mention the 'sub frame' issue, by saying 'recent inspection' carried out. At least I am now aware of the main issues with the E46 and they are top of my list of checks.

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Monday 21st November 2016
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Thank you, plenty of good advise in your post which I will be heeding. When I find a car that I want to have a closer look at I will certainly be inspecting the past invoices very carefully. All in all I have been very well advised by all posters. Thanks everybody.

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Monday 21st November 2016
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^^^^^^^
Thanks Andy, fortunately a BMW Indy opened in town last year so I expect that will be garage of my choice, unless people advise otherwise.

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Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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^^^^

Thank you for taking time and trouble to post great advise.

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Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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I have found a couple of cars which I intend to 'go see'. One of the dealers talks of the vanos pipes being replaced and the rear suspension areas inspected and crack free. The second dealer talks of only the usual sales talk.
But my question is, assuming the rear suspension areas have been properly repaired how long can the repairs be expected to last under normal conditions and maintenance. I as,K because my purchase will be a keeper for me..

Edit to correct vamps with vanos!!!L

Edited by crankedup on Wednesday 23 November 22:30

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Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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^^^^^^
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Thursday 24th November 2016
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^^^^^^
For me the first service tells me that the original owner was at least concerned enough about his/her car to have the work carried out. Lack of first service, for me, indicates an original owner who didn't give a flyin fig.
Any way off to look at a car tomorrow, it's at 'bespokesportscars' on the south coast area. Car reads very well ticking my boxes, just hope it turns out a good'un.

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Thursday 24th November 2016
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www.bespokesportscars.co.uk


A choice of sub 15k BMW and I hope they may have the one I seek.
The car I am looking at is shown on the top row right hand side, blue with grey interior.

Edited by crankedup on Friday 25th November 10:25

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Thursday 24th November 2016
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It's getting really tough now, seems so many inherent faults with the design of this car that I am starting to ask myself why is it that I am interested in buying this classic"
Hopefully the early design faults are resolved, but thank you for the heads up and I will definitely be looking very closely at the history.
Strangely my old Vauxhall (1928) and my Volvo (1968) seem unremakeably strong, robust and a good turn of speed for there era. This I was hoping to find in a e46.

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Monday 28th November 2016
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Thanks for all the inputs, we decided to buy the car from bespokesportscars, good history and drove really well. For a car at 12 years of age it is in superb condition. Pick it up this Friday.
Our son is handy with spanners, most of the stuff on his Cerbera he spanners, he reckons he always will do a better job than a garage, but it takes longer sometimes. He can use our car in exchange for spanner hours maybe biglaugh

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Tuesday 29th November 2016
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SebringMan said:
If he chose the one I thought he has great taste. Most aren't keen on the grey but I think it works very well with Mystic Blue.

Of course I am not biased, much.
Went for the Mystic Blue with grey leather. Beautiful diamond cut refurbed wheels, reasonable miles 103,000. No sunroof, but then we didn't want one particularly. I will post a few pic's at weekend. Lovely manual gearbox which is something that was a must for us giving that old Sokol feel to driving.
Paid top dollar for the car at £10,300 but as is said the price is soon forgotten and I feel the car is worth it. Just need to sort out the tax and insurance now!!

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Tuesday 29th November 2016
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andyman_2006 said:


I know which one now, i had a look at the link you posted, the first thing i noticed was the Mystic blue very nice, i had a le mans blue 1-coupe but this is nicer colour i think. I'm not a fan of the grey leather but totally see why it would be chosen with the blue, it does however look very tidy indeed. I clocked the wheels noticed they had been re-cut nicely and had continental tyres not a budget brand so plus there. Welcome to the club! you wont regret it, and £10K is a steal for a £40K car.

Andy
Thanks Andy Yes good sign that the tyres are not budget brand, the rears are almost new but the fronts are half worn. Seems to be a good car, but only time and miles to be certain I suppose.
The one big draw back for us is the lack of a spare wheel, it has still got the pump things in the boot but I would rather have a proper spare. Do you guys buy a space saver ?

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Tuesday 29th November 2016
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wiggycerb said:
Which Cerb has he got ?, I have the 4.2 AJP and use the e45 M3 as my daily.

Both completely different animals but equally enjoyable.

Matt
Certainly different animals, I drove Matts Cerb a couple of months back after a long lay off from performance cars. It shocked me just how quick the cerb is, lovely. His one is a 4.5 V8 all in original condition. He has had a few niggles to sort out, but then he likes his cars to be spot on. First job was the suspension, he said the car was almost undrivable when he first purchased it from a private sale. Price was good so allowed for bits to be sorted, door sensors was another.
One thing found was that TVR garage services are crap, not improved since I last owned a SEAC twenty years back! That's why he sorts the problems so they are done correctly.