F82 M4 Manual thoughts please
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Hey Guys
Just looking for general thoughts on the manual option on this motor. After agreeing a sale on a manual E90 and then the dealer (Sales manager tbh) being a t
t and selling the car from underneath me I've been looking at a really nice F82 manual. My dream (Realistic) car has always been an M3/ M4 (To me the M4 is an M3) and I have finally thought life is far to short and I'm prepared to take the plunge. I have owned a Z4M before and know a reasonable amount of info about these cars. The question is I've seen a great F82 that I reckon could be achievable if I barter the deal (I don't have mega money and earn a higher than average wage however still want to be able to live my life without struggling every month to pay for a car. I have a minted trade-in that I can sell private if needed (9 month old Renaultsport Megane 275 with OHlins and Akraprovic. I have a soft spot for Renaultsport products. Previously owned R26.R).
So Thoughts please. Manual F82 a decent motor or wait and save for a DCT model?
Sure you guys will speak your mind. lol
Just looking for general thoughts on the manual option on this motor. After agreeing a sale on a manual E90 and then the dealer (Sales manager tbh) being a t
t and selling the car from underneath me I've been looking at a really nice F82 manual. My dream (Realistic) car has always been an M3/ M4 (To me the M4 is an M3) and I have finally thought life is far to short and I'm prepared to take the plunge. I have owned a Z4M before and know a reasonable amount of info about these cars. The question is I've seen a great F82 that I reckon could be achievable if I barter the deal (I don't have mega money and earn a higher than average wage however still want to be able to live my life without struggling every month to pay for a car. I have a minted trade-in that I can sell private if needed (9 month old Renaultsport Megane 275 with OHlins and Akraprovic. I have a soft spot for Renaultsport products. Previously owned R26.R). So Thoughts please. Manual F82 a decent motor or wait and save for a DCT model?
Sure you guys will speak your mind. lol
Know exactly what you mean about the gear change. However out all the German brands I'd say It was the best. Nicest i've ever experienced is Honda S2000 Or FN2 Civic Type R. I did have a deposit on an manual M2 however pulled out. DCT is faster and slightly more economical with cheaper tax etc. However the car will be a weekend toy day off blaster so not used for the commute.
Kiernan said:
I've got a manual M4 and absolutely love it; have tried DCT but it's just not for me.
OK, I'm a bit of a manual fan but I've had DCT which, whilst a fantastic gearbox, just left me cold after a few months. I had an E92 DCT which I lost a fortune on, but once I realised that I was some sort of luddite, I replaced it with a manual version of the same car which suited me better. In that car, I changed the gear knob to that fitted to US market M5's and that improved things substantially.
Fast forward to getting my M4 and I test drove the DCT. Again, I was impressed how the car changed gear better than I ever could, but I still found it a bit dull. I therefore ordered a manual without driving one (!), and I took delivery of it a few months later. Thankfully, I really like the box as it feels like BMW have worked to make it one of their better efforts. The throw is more direct and it just feels a lot less obstructive than in my old E46 and E92, especially when cold. I really enjoy the act of changing gear, and in 2 years of ownership I've never wished I'd bought a DCT.
Obviously it's a personal thing and you'll need to drive both for yourself, but with the car having so much more mid range power than the E92, it works really well as a manual. By the way, don't think of me as some sort of auto/DCT hater - my daily drive is an X3 3.0d auto and I just love the easy going nature of that car. It's just that when I go for a drive to enjoy the experience, I prefer to change gear for myself.
Thanks for the above response mate. I think you have me convinced. I test drove the M2 in DCT form and while it was very impressive and fast I still placed the order for a manual. So I think demo M4 manual. Im now on the hunt and theirs one car I've seen thats caught my eye already. OK, I'm a bit of a manual fan but I've had DCT which, whilst a fantastic gearbox, just left me cold after a few months. I had an E92 DCT which I lost a fortune on, but once I realised that I was some sort of luddite, I replaced it with a manual version of the same car which suited me better. In that car, I changed the gear knob to that fitted to US market M5's and that improved things substantially.
Fast forward to getting my M4 and I test drove the DCT. Again, I was impressed how the car changed gear better than I ever could, but I still found it a bit dull. I therefore ordered a manual without driving one (!), and I took delivery of it a few months later. Thankfully, I really like the box as it feels like BMW have worked to make it one of their better efforts. The throw is more direct and it just feels a lot less obstructive than in my old E46 and E92, especially when cold. I really enjoy the act of changing gear, and in 2 years of ownership I've never wished I'd bought a DCT.
Obviously it's a personal thing and you'll need to drive both for yourself, but with the car having so much more mid range power than the E92, it works really well as a manual. By the way, don't think of me as some sort of auto/DCT hater - my daily drive is an X3 3.0d auto and I just love the easy going nature of that car. It's just that when I go for a drive to enjoy the experience, I prefer to change gear for myself.
Im so glad this forum exists as you get a mix of opinions. So manual M4 is a winner.
I did find that the DCT in the M2 was difficult to control when changing through the gears. DCT amazing bit of kit and for driving through Edinburgh in traffic it would be ace. However Its a drivers toy so manual it is.
I did find that the DCT in the M2 was difficult to control when changing through the gears. DCT amazing bit of kit and for driving through Edinburgh in traffic it would be ace. However Its a drivers toy so manual it is.
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