E9x rod bearings question

E9x rod bearings question

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TyrannosauRoss Lex

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Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Someone has said that on "pre-2011 cars" it's recommended to get them done around 80k miles.....does this mean that the rod bearings are not an issue for 2011 cars? Specifically a September 2011 car.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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VeeTenM said:
Wouldn't even worry about the year, if they are not done get them done!
The car is under warranty for 3 months, but i have the car booked in for April 12th. I don't anticipate doing many miles before then, I shouldn't think more than 700 or so.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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I always drive with mechanical sympathy anyway. I never give full throttle for at least 7-8 miles usually! They'll be done soon enough.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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Mr Tidy said:
Different car, different engine but prone to similar issues. I had them replaced on my Z4M at 78K miles and was glad I did when I saw the old ones!

While the front subframe was off I also had new engine mounts fitted although I don't know if they are an issue on E9*s. Mine were as past it as the bearing shells.
The engine mounts are very much an issue on the E9x series. They will be done at the same time smile

E90_M3Ross

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fido said:
RB-related .. I am about to buy 10 litres of Mobil 1 FS 5W-50 for the E92. Does anyone else use this stuff instead of the 10W60?
Can't say I've ever heard of it.

Mine is in for rod bearings right now!

E90_M3Ross

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Being a September 2011 car I believe (although may be wrong) mine would have had the later bearings. I hope to get the car back tomorrow. I believe they started work yesterday but it's also in for a fair bit of other work too. I anticipate a bill a fair bit above £2k.

The indy it's at have done rod bearings a lot. They've averaged 3 sets per week this year alone!

E90_M3Ross

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JEA1K said:
Its a gamble not to have them done .... £8k - £10 for a new engine inc fitting. My car was at 128,000 and running as sweet as a nut but like everyone, I had 'RB anxiety' and they came out pretty worn ... the car had the same owner for 12 years who used it as his daily driver so I would assume that it was warmed up properly as he must have had a decent commute.
Evolve had a 152k mile one that was on its original bearings.

Just because someone owned it for that long and used as a daily driver doesn't mean it was warmed up gently. Even if someone uses it 50 miles a day but thrashes from cold it still will cause significant wear.

E90_M3Ross

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SlimJim16v said:
One specialist also uses ARP bolts when doing the bearings.
ACL bearings are sufficient for most. The only benefit of the ARP bolts, really, is of you're doing a lot of track work, and even then, bolt failure is basically unheard of. Are they better? Yes. Is there any remotely tangible benefit to 99.9% of users? No.

E90_M3Ross

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JEA1K said:
E90_M3Ross said:
Evolve had a 152k mile one that was on its original bearings.

Just because someone owned it for that long and used as a daily driver doesn't mean it was warmed up gently. Even if someone uses it 50 miles a day but thrashes from cold it still will cause significant wear.
I know, I saw it as well.

Who knows, I'm just stating that mine hadn't blown up by 128k miles ... based on internet folklore alone, it should have blown up way before then .... even if it was warmed up properly.

Maybe thrashing it from cold is the best thing ... we just don't know?

All we know for sure is 'the internet scare stories'. blabla
Well mine is ready for collection so I'm going to be leaving soon. The bearings were actually in good condition, so ultimately didn't need doing, but it's good peace of mind. Internet folklore may make it seem worse than it is, but it most definitely is a problem though.

E90_M3Ross

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JEA1K said:
SlimJim16v said:
One specialist also uses ARP bolts when doing the bearings.
Its just prudent to do it a the same time ... it adds little to the overall cost in terms of parts and labour, so its a no brainer for most and advised by specialists who work on S65's.
It adds £150 or so, and offers no tangible benefit for 99% of users, having spoken to the chap who distributes them. Yes, they're better, they're reusable (certainly shouldn't need to do the bearings again!) and won't stretch but how many bolt failures have you heard of? I haven't heard of any. Seems like a waste of £150 to me. Cost for bearings plus engine mounts was £1350, or £1500 with the ARP bolts.

E90_M3Ross

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Saturday 15th April 2023
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My indy yesterday said don't go above 3k rpm until it's warm and change the oil every 7.5k and I'll never need to do the bearings again. I typically do oil more frequently than that anyway.

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Sunday 16th April 2023
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fido said:
I went for 10litres of Mobil 1 5W50 in the end. The engine is out of warranty now and I just want to keep my bearings shiny as possible with cold starts!
With the updated ACL bearings, regular oil changes and generally treating it well from cold I do not believe there should be any cause for concern.

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DumDum said:
2011 LCI car, mine failed. 2 pistons through the block, was scrap.
Always warmed it properly but can’t account for previous owner.
Not worth not doing them.

Cost me a new engine.
Thread resurrection! hehe

Thanks, but yes, I had them done about 9 months ago now smile