Discussion
Mannginger said:
I've had an NC 2.0 sport and currently have an NA 1.8 S Special and I have to say the ND is better than both. I loved it today, have the 1.5 a thorough workout.
Ne right road it's fantastic, lovely little close range box, free-revving and really nicely judges suspension with very effective brakes.
Driven hard it really rewards momentum, much like my NA and I swear it's quicker than my old 2 litre NC.
I really want one now, 1.5 is the sweetspot IMO.
Phil
I really want one
did you try the 2.0?Ne right road it's fantastic, lovely little close range box, free-revving and really nicely judges suspension with very effective brakes.
Driven hard it really rewards momentum, much like my NA and I swear it's quicker than my old 2 litre NC.
I really want one now, 1.5 is the sweetspot IMO.
Phil
I really want one
Mannginger said:
SFO said:
tan/sand leather looks great .. really improves the interior
leather looks decent quality too
Forgot to reply on that earlier as well. I was in a black 1.5 with Sand leather and personally I thought it looked great. I'd be speccing Sand in a dark car definitelyleather looks decent quality too
Phil
elvismiggell said:
JulesV said:
Yes, she has chosen a 1.5 Sport Nav.
Awesome, hope you get it soon. Good luck!300bhp/ton said:
Not convinced it'll save much weight tbh. Maybe more cost.
Personally I think this is going to be something I won't like about it. I'm short, so need the seat forward, but I don't want it raised!!!! I want it the height it is further back, else you hit your knees on the dash/steering column cowl.
I'm 5'7" and found it ok. I was more worried about not being able to adjust the wheel much but it all seemed ok in the end.Personally I think this is going to be something I won't like about it. I'm short, so need the seat forward, but I don't want it raised!!!! I want it the height it is further back, else you hit your knees on the dash/steering column cowl.
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drove a 2L Sport Nav and 1.5 SE-L today. 2L car was slightly unsettled, yet mostly at home on London roads. The engine felt strong, but not as enthusiastic as the 1.5. I suspect 2L will loosen up and feel more responsive in time. 1.5 was zingy and zesty from the very start. On reflection, you do feel the 50NM torque deficit of the 1.5. Both brand new cars.
SE-L suspension is appreciably more compliant, and much better for our terrible roads. No doubt the 16" wheels helped too.
1.5 SE-L is a peach; eager, compliant yet hangs on with great determination. Both cars lean but after that have superb body control.
Most of all, they feel light and athletic in the long distance runner sense.
To make a similar rate of progress in the 1.5 as the 2L, you need to be about 1.5k rpm higher (assuming same gear).
I was smiling a lot .. both cars seem to pivot from your bum, and the lack of inertia is wonderful.
when set for my height, I found the seat about an inch too high .. if there wasn't the inclined seat rail, it would be perfect.
2L makes more sense for me as its "operating range" is wider .. for example, it would cope better with fast motorway runs.
dealer is able to get seats and door cards trimmed in good quality (the sample book was anyway!) leather (whole spectrum of about 15 colours) for £1000 .. which works perfectly for me, as I don't want to spend £3400 just to get tan leather seats (not interested in NAV or Sport extras).
if I go ahead, it will probably be a 2L SE-L (you get the LSD and the strut brace but not the sport suspension) in meteor grey with the £1000 UK fitted dark tan leather interior. the 17" wheels of the 2L will hopefully sharpen up the standard suspension just that little bit to make the car just right. I reckon it is the sweetspot for me.
found the steering accurate, but just that little bit too light. Also a bit dull at lower townish speeds. Much better with improved feel and weighting when throwing the car around windy roads.
overall, a superb little car, in an age of bloated metal.
PS. the Sport Nav rear parking sensors looked terrible, very last century. And you don't need them, the rear of the car is about 5 feet from where you are sitting, easy to judge.
PPS. There is an alcantara red stitched accessory for the dash bit (normal plastic in SE-L; soft covering and red stitched in Sport) for around £270 (ex fitting).
SE-L suspension is appreciably more compliant, and much better for our terrible roads. No doubt the 16" wheels helped too.
1.5 SE-L is a peach; eager, compliant yet hangs on with great determination. Both cars lean but after that have superb body control.
Most of all, they feel light and athletic in the long distance runner sense.
To make a similar rate of progress in the 1.5 as the 2L, you need to be about 1.5k rpm higher (assuming same gear).
I was smiling a lot .. both cars seem to pivot from your bum, and the lack of inertia is wonderful.
when set for my height, I found the seat about an inch too high .. if there wasn't the inclined seat rail, it would be perfect.
2L makes more sense for me as its "operating range" is wider .. for example, it would cope better with fast motorway runs.
dealer is able to get seats and door cards trimmed in good quality (the sample book was anyway!) leather (whole spectrum of about 15 colours) for £1000 .. which works perfectly for me, as I don't want to spend £3400 just to get tan leather seats (not interested in NAV or Sport extras).
if I go ahead, it will probably be a 2L SE-L (you get the LSD and the strut brace but not the sport suspension) in meteor grey with the £1000 UK fitted dark tan leather interior. the 17" wheels of the 2L will hopefully sharpen up the standard suspension just that little bit to make the car just right. I reckon it is the sweetspot for me.
found the steering accurate, but just that little bit too light. Also a bit dull at lower townish speeds. Much better with improved feel and weighting when throwing the car around windy roads.
overall, a superb little car, in an age of bloated metal.
PS. the Sport Nav rear parking sensors looked terrible, very last century. And you don't need them, the rear of the car is about 5 feet from where you are sitting, easy to judge.
PPS. There is an alcantara red stitched accessory for the dash bit (normal plastic in SE-L; soft covering and red stitched in Sport) for around £270 (ex fitting).
Edited by SFO on Sunday 30th August 00:15
Pickle77 said:
SFO said:
...if I go ahead, it will probably be a 2L SE-L (you get the LSD and the strut brace but not the sport suspension) in meteor grey with the £1000 UK fitted dark tan leather interior. the 17" wheels of the 2L will hopefully sharpen up the standard suspension just that little bit to make the car just right. I reckon it is the sweetspot for me.
Those are my thoughts too SFO ( but with a different colour).However, I haven't found any reports by anyone with experience of a 2L SE-L as yet, so any such reviews would be much appreciated.
Also,SFO, did you get the impression that the leather trimming service was general to most dealers, or just a special service from your own?
Thanks.
Leather service was specific to my dealer, not from Mazda.
I bet someone on the MX5 forum would be able to recommend someone.
JoeyD said:
Me and a friend drove one on Saturday, he ordered one later that day and I will be doing as soon as I can afford one! And between us we've owned around 9 MK1's and 1 MK3. They're really hit the nail on the head with this one IMO.
what (1.5 or 2, SE-L or Sport) did he order? do you know why?what would you or order? why?
JoeyD said:
SFO said:
what (1.5 or 2, SE-L or Sport) did he order? do you know why?
what would you or order? why?
2.0 Sport Nav, Soul Red, Black interior. And TBH having seen the colours on offer I'd order the same. Only other option for me would be white, but it's kind of too 'in fashion' at the moment. Saw Ceramic in the sunlight and it looked fantastic, but then under a dull sky it looked like they'd forgotten to finish painting it, so that went out the window. And whilst it looks great in black, sod owning a black car! The 2.0 is a must due to potential track work and having the LSD is a big plus too. Sport spec for the leather and toys, not so much the bilsteins as they'd potentially be replaced eventually. But it was such a nice thing to drive. Everything in terms of the drive felt familiar - just vastly improved upon. I've not been impressed by a car this much in a long time tbh! Wouldn't think twice about binning off my MK1 that I've spent literally thousands of pounds and hundreds of hours building for one - I enjoyed it that much!what would you or order? why?
And it even sounded good! Which is a revelation after the previous models.
I drove a NC hard top in Spring this year, the new one is leagues better in all respects.
Edited by SFO on Monday 31st August 21:30
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