Ram 1500 Sport Hemi vs Range Rover L322 TDV8

Ram 1500 Sport Hemi vs Range Rover L322 TDV8

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ChemicalChaos

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Monday 9th March 2015
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Evening chaps.

Talk me into or out of this please! I'm currently looking at various land Rovers to replace my old Disco, and the choice keeps swinging from G4 Disco 3 to FFRR TDV8 and back again. However......
I really really fancied a Ford Raptor, but I had to concede that they are just too big over here due to the flared bodywork and comedy suspension. They are also exceedingly expensive.
I therefore thought the dream of a yank truck was dead, until I spotted on ebay a lightly used Ram 1500 Sport 5.7 Hemi, on LPG, for the same price as a Rangie. Having checked out the dimensions, the Ram is positively svelte, with only the 2ft extra length being any different from a big Euro SUV.
My parents think it am daft for wanting an LHD car in an RHD country, but i don't personally see the problem - especially as its automatic anyway. Additionally, my man maths suggests that a hemi on LPG will be about the same, if not slightly less, per mile to run than a 28-30 mpg diesel SUV.
The truck I have seen has the added advantage of being a facelift model with a tactile interior rather than the Fischer Price effort of the up-to-08 model years.

Whilst I currently do 5000 miles a year, mainly for things like vintage vehicle shows, the odd bit of heavy towing, sleeping in on bleak airfields, 4x4 response duties and some light off roading; from this summer I will start commuting a 70 mile round trip for work.

So what do we think.... am I off my rocker or do I have a point here to convince my parents (whose house the vehicle will be kept at and who will use it occasionally whilst I'm at uni, and thus have final say on what is sensible)?

ChemicalChaos

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Friday 13th March 2015
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Thanks Chaps!

I'm thoroughly set on the Ram now, just got to hope I can get my Disco repaired and shifted in time for it to still be for sale!

Pickup owners... who do you insure with? I presume it has to be classed as a commercial? How much is it relative to a normal SUV?

Edited by ChemicalChaos on Friday 13th March 02:24

ChemicalChaos

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Friday 13th March 2015
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Stu R said:
FWIW LHD is no problem in the UK, especially with Rams as they've usually got the bench seat you can slide across at McDonalds / Toll booths etc smile
I was pondering this, but the facelift ones with the tactile interior have a centre console with a gear selector and cubby bin. I'm not interested in a pre-facelift as the interiors look utterly dire and irretrievably cheap and tacky.

ChemicalChaos

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Monday 16th March 2015
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Ballbags! The truck I was watching on ebay has been pulled by the seller, presumably due to a deal being struck.

At £22k for a 5.7 Laramie on LPG with 50k miles, it was exceptional value and I can't find another one like it either over here or on US ebay (especially by the time import, vat, sva and lpg conversion are factored in) frown

ChemicalChaos

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Monday 16th March 2015
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Whereabouts in the US are you? I scoured ebay US earlier and any crew cab 5.7 Hemi in Sport, Laramie or Longhorn trim is at least $35K if you want it in 4x4

ChemicalChaos

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Monday 16th March 2015
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Ah,sorry I meant to also add: post 08 face-lift with the much updated drivetrain and much improved interior

ChemicalChaos

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Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Ah, fk it.

There's now a very nice 06/07 Laramie on ebay for a much lower price, again with prins lpg and still "only" 80k miles (so nothing for a yank truck). Compared with the hassle of finding, importing and converting my own 09+ truck, maybe I could live with the tacky plastic for a year or two whilst waiting for another uk based new shape truck to come up.

Anyone know if the difference of 350/400bhp pre/post facelift is a simple remap, or it is an engine hardware update? I gather they both have the cylinder deactivation tech as standard.

ChemicalChaos

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Sunday 22nd March 2015
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What was it like interns of size? Did it look or feel much/any larger than a modern Chelsea tank?

ChemicalChaos

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Thursday 26th March 2015
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Thanks for the help everyone.

I ended up having a quite large argument with the parents who told me I was being utterly stupid wanting something that long and tall (the bit about it being 2" wider than an RR seemingly not registering with them), and that I could find somewhere else to park it if I went and got one.

Sadly (he says, in a relative fashion), I have instead pulled the trigger tonight on a very nice 4.4 V8 L322 after noticing they were half the price year for year of a TDV8 and cost less per mile to run on gas....

ChemicalChaos

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Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Yes, although I live away during term time but the cars stay at home. Why?

ChemicalChaos

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Thursday 2nd April 2015
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I see your point and have no doubt I do appreciate my position. However, that 4.4 petrol RR cost the princely sum of £9k in the end - not bad for something with a £70k price tag when new this time 10 years ago! Plus, I should get £3.5k back from my D2 when that goes

ChemicalChaos

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Saturday 4th April 2015
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Roo said:
I'd buy a good nick XJ Orvis straight away if one came up for sale.

Lovely things.
I looked at one 3 years ago before buying my Discovery. It looked nice, was well-appointed and drove well but compared to the Disco it was absolutely tiny inside!