F150 v8 vs v6 + import
Discussion
Hi guys,
I am new to this part of PH, although not new to PH.
I am looking to buy / import a 2016 F150 Lariat. I drove a 3.5 v6, and it felt very nippy, but sounds like a four pot. I think (having read hundreds of threads on yank forums about superiority of the v6) I have decided it will be 5.0 v8, mostly for the sound.
Now, does it make any sense to buy direct from the dealer there? Can I do it "over the phone", or would I have to go there? The alternative is to use a reputable US car supplier near London, and get them to do it for me.
I do not want to open a can of worms by asking which engine to choose, so I will refrain from doing that
As for the purchase, I am very specific on the spec I want, so it would have to be made to order. Am I right in thinking that when buying through Canada new, and exporting you would pay the OTR cost - 5% VAT?
Thank you
Bart
I am new to this part of PH, although not new to PH.
I am looking to buy / import a 2016 F150 Lariat. I drove a 3.5 v6, and it felt very nippy, but sounds like a four pot. I think (having read hundreds of threads on yank forums about superiority of the v6) I have decided it will be 5.0 v8, mostly for the sound.
Now, does it make any sense to buy direct from the dealer there? Can I do it "over the phone", or would I have to go there? The alternative is to use a reputable US car supplier near London, and get them to do it for me.
I do not want to open a can of worms by asking which engine to choose, so I will refrain from doing that
As for the purchase, I am very specific on the spec I want, so it would have to be made to order. Am I right in thinking that when buying through Canada new, and exporting you would pay the OTR cost - 5% VAT?
Thank you
Bart
Thanks chaps.
Sounds like a task. When it comes to IVA prep, I imagine one would have to prove it is a car rather than a truck to qualify foe the lower duty.
Would you happen to know if there is a plce on the net to find all of the info?
So far I got a shipping quote that seemed to be on a high side at £5000. It did, however include the full registration process, including IVA test + prep, first reg fee, all admin, road tax, marine insurance, etc.
I wonder, though, how to ensure you do the right amount, and type of conversion.
Sounds like a task. When it comes to IVA prep, I imagine one would have to prove it is a car rather than a truck to qualify foe the lower duty.
Would you happen to know if there is a plce on the net to find all of the info?
So far I got a shipping quote that seemed to be on a high side at £5000. It did, however include the full registration process, including IVA test + prep, first reg fee, all admin, road tax, marine insurance, etc.
I wonder, though, how to ensure you do the right amount, and type of conversion.
Hey Roo,
It was indeed shipmycar.
As for the rules, I did read the duty rules, and it seems the SuperCrew fits nearly in. The length of the floor of the box must not exceed 50% of the wheelbase. Ok. The wheelbase is 157inches, but the box is 78.9inch. So it exceeds the limit by 0.4inch. Would that matter? Also, the ruling says about the personal import, and I can openly confirm the vehicle is being imported under the company VAT, and for a sole company use. Would that exclude the availability of the lower duty?
As for the light conversions, etc, I could probably manage that myself. It seems it is only the headlights, and tails that need doing + rear fog.
Yet, with the shipping quote so high, it nearly takes me back to square one making the whole cost of the thing indifferent to what I was quoted by a party selling yanks for a living.
It was indeed shipmycar.
As for the rules, I did read the duty rules, and it seems the SuperCrew fits nearly in. The length of the floor of the box must not exceed 50% of the wheelbase. Ok. The wheelbase is 157inches, but the box is 78.9inch. So it exceeds the limit by 0.4inch. Would that matter? Also, the ruling says about the personal import, and I can openly confirm the vehicle is being imported under the company VAT, and for a sole company use. Would that exclude the availability of the lower duty?
As for the light conversions, etc, I could probably manage that myself. It seems it is only the headlights, and tails that need doing + rear fog.
Yet, with the shipping quote so high, it nearly takes me back to square one making the whole cost of the thing indifferent to what I was quoted by a party selling yanks for a living.
Hey Roo,
I read it can't exceed 50% of the wheelbase. Still, even if it is as you are saying, would it matter that the vehicle is being registered for the company under my VAT?
As foe the electrics, I don't speak CanBus, so might have to leave it professionals. Last thing I want is for the dash to light up like a Xmas tree.
I read it can't exceed 50% of the wheelbase. Still, even if it is as you are saying, would it matter that the vehicle is being registered for the company under my VAT?
As foe the electrics, I don't speak CanBus, so might have to leave it professionals. Last thing I want is for the dash to light up like a Xmas tree.
Thanks for the replies chaps.
So, I actually decided to pay a dealer to take the hassle off my shoulders. I could see things likely going wrong, things getting damaged, etc and with a daily job that is demanding of my time they way it is, I did not allow any room for error, or hickups.
Perhaps I should not be advertising the company, so I will just mention it is a dealership located in Waltham Abbey. From what I could tell so far, pleasant person to deal with, and good knowledege, and transparency. I was not even going to buy one for another year, as I have still got leasing running on the current Hilux Invincible. Only went to see what they are like, and all that... I drove the v6, and... Yes, I was surprised how well it went, I mean wow, my expectations where totally different. However, on the outside it sounded, ekhm, it did not sound at all. I watched reviews, and all, and even with likes of Borla exhaust on it, it sounded like an angry Focus ST. I know the v8 is behind technology-wise. But then, having always wanted the Raptor V8, it just had to be the v8. Especially that all my cars have been a v8 for the last 8 years.
Anyway, I ordered a 5.0v8 Lariat SuperCrew with 6.5ft bed. Added a couple of minor options like Led spot lights, spray in bed liner, and blind spot alert. Oh, I went for the 4x2. I realise some might say it will be unpopular second hand, and it should be a 4x4, but reality is that it will sit in Central London a lot, it will never tow, it will sometimes carry some weight, and will generally serve as my mobile office. As for the tuneability of the v8, yes I know the EB is so much better from start, but I hope the mpg should be very similar, as well as the power, too. Especially that it does not have any turbos. I will not work it, I just want the sound
And for the fast driving experience, I have got my VXR8 GTS with nearly 600bhp on tap, so I hope I should be ok.
As for the Payload, the setup I went for, gives me 2280lbs standard, which makes it qualify for the commercial use with no need to be adding the heavy duty payload package.
Once again, thanks for the valuable advice
Regards
Bart
So, I actually decided to pay a dealer to take the hassle off my shoulders. I could see things likely going wrong, things getting damaged, etc and with a daily job that is demanding of my time they way it is, I did not allow any room for error, or hickups.
Perhaps I should not be advertising the company, so I will just mention it is a dealership located in Waltham Abbey. From what I could tell so far, pleasant person to deal with, and good knowledege, and transparency. I was not even going to buy one for another year, as I have still got leasing running on the current Hilux Invincible. Only went to see what they are like, and all that... I drove the v6, and... Yes, I was surprised how well it went, I mean wow, my expectations where totally different. However, on the outside it sounded, ekhm, it did not sound at all. I watched reviews, and all, and even with likes of Borla exhaust on it, it sounded like an angry Focus ST. I know the v8 is behind technology-wise. But then, having always wanted the Raptor V8, it just had to be the v8. Especially that all my cars have been a v8 for the last 8 years.
Anyway, I ordered a 5.0v8 Lariat SuperCrew with 6.5ft bed. Added a couple of minor options like Led spot lights, spray in bed liner, and blind spot alert. Oh, I went for the 4x2. I realise some might say it will be unpopular second hand, and it should be a 4x4, but reality is that it will sit in Central London a lot, it will never tow, it will sometimes carry some weight, and will generally serve as my mobile office. As for the tuneability of the v8, yes I know the EB is so much better from start, but I hope the mpg should be very similar, as well as the power, too. Especially that it does not have any turbos. I will not work it, I just want the sound
And for the fast driving experience, I have got my VXR8 GTS with nearly 600bhp on tap, so I hope I should be ok.
As for the Payload, the setup I went for, gives me 2280lbs standard, which makes it qualify for the commercial use with no need to be adding the heavy duty payload package.
Once again, thanks for the valuable advice
Regards
Bart
Thanks Mr
It took me a few sleepless nights to settle on both spec, and the route to take. I guess time was essential, so leaving room to costly mistakes would have probably proven more than the turn key solution, especially that the company was very open about the fees they attracted.
As for the towing regs, I would be very surprised if it were any different to what you posted.
As for the choice of the truck, well I spend good number of hours per day / week in the Hilux, and although it comes with a 200bhp motor, it feels really sluggish. And it's diesel
I get about 25mpg in town on that being manual and weighing pretty much the same that the F150 does.
American EPA figures suggest 15mpg town and 22mpg motorway. Bearing in mind these are US mpg figures, and apparently reflect real life economy better than uk published figures, I would be very happy (and probably lucky) if I get 18mpg town and 25mpg UK figures. I might want to put gas conversion in, but not sure if I will be able to justify it with the mileage I do.
Thanks
Bart
It took me a few sleepless nights to settle on both spec, and the route to take. I guess time was essential, so leaving room to costly mistakes would have probably proven more than the turn key solution, especially that the company was very open about the fees they attracted.
As for the towing regs, I would be very surprised if it were any different to what you posted.
As for the choice of the truck, well I spend good number of hours per day / week in the Hilux, and although it comes with a 200bhp motor, it feels really sluggish. And it's diesel
I get about 25mpg in town on that being manual and weighing pretty much the same that the F150 does. American EPA figures suggest 15mpg town and 22mpg motorway. Bearing in mind these are US mpg figures, and apparently reflect real life economy better than uk published figures, I would be very happy (and probably lucky) if I get 18mpg town and 25mpg UK figures. I might want to put gas conversion in, but not sure if I will be able to justify it with the mileage I do.
Thanks
Bart
AdeTuono said:
BartW said:
Thanks for the replies chaps.
So, I actually decided to pay a dealer to take the hassle off my shoulders. I could see things likely going wrong, things getting damaged, etc and with a daily job that is demanding of my time they way it is, I did not allow any room for error, or hickups.
Perhaps I should not be advertising the company, so I will just mention it is a dealership located in Waltham Abbey. From what I could tell so far, pleasant person to deal with, and good knowledege, and transparency...
Charles brought my Raptor in a couple of years ago. Top man to deal with, and will use him again when I move this one on.So, I actually decided to pay a dealer to take the hassle off my shoulders. I could see things likely going wrong, things getting damaged, etc and with a daily job that is demanding of my time they way it is, I did not allow any room for error, or hickups.
Perhaps I should not be advertising the company, so I will just mention it is a dealership located in Waltham Abbey. From what I could tell so far, pleasant person to deal with, and good knowledege, and transparency...
Fttm,
Needless to say, this is exactly the opinion I was hoping to hear A word of justification to my actions already taken
The truck is on order now, and it is a 5.0v8. I drove the Platinum, but at the premium over, and above the Lariat, I decided it was not worth it for what I need it to be. I have got a weekend toy in a V8 guise already. This is supposed to be replacing a euro truck Toyota Hilux, which although being a top of the range Invincible, is nothing compared to Lariat when it comes to spec, engine and performance let alone.
Needless to say, this is exactly the opinion I was hoping to hear
A word of justification to my actions already taken The truck is on order now, and it is a 5.0v8. I drove the Platinum, but at the premium over, and above the Lariat, I decided it was not worth it for what I need it to be. I have got a weekend toy in a V8 guise already. This is supposed to be replacing a euro truck Toyota Hilux, which although being a top of the range Invincible, is nothing compared to Lariat when it comes to spec, engine and performance let alone.
Gassing Station | Yank Motors | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff