Tag Heuer...... Hear me out

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I have the option to buy a carrera 1887 for $2300. I know there is a lot of disdain for Tag but it seems too good to be true. Would I get my money back 12 months later?

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Sounds like the "in house movement" suffers from the same negative perception as their other watches. The trouble is that I like the design so I'm probably going to get one anyway.

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I have been procrastinating on this purchase for 10 years. I was originally going to buy the calibre 16 version for around $2k but Tag had a huge price increase and so I walked away. More recently I was looking at IWC which crept up to JLC, because of the movement being in house, and then I lost my bottle again. But, now the 1887 has come available from an authorized dealer at a very good price I think this is where my money will end up.

I like the grey faced dial. Does that make me better or worse? In the end it does not matter as wearing a Tag will be the least of my "fashion" failings. I have Ralph Lauren polo shirts because I like the way they fit and the quality of the finish and do not care about he perception of them. I only ask about the Tag movement because I am an engineer and want something that has some foundation of quality even if the brand perception is poor

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I missed out on the $2300 price as it was based on an apparent mistake on a reputable web site. The best price I can get it now is $3k. At this price then I agree with those that say it is over priced

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I'm still looking into this and stumbled upon a calibre 36 carrera at a reasonable price. The 36 is a Zenith movement so should be good. What are your opinions on this? Is it still a brand perception issue?

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I respect omega but they have never appealed asthetically. Same with Rolex. The smart money would be with those brands but I love the look of Tags.

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The 16 may have some reliability issues which is what lead me to the 1887 in the first place. Take a look at Watchuseek and chrono24 for what is available from none authorized dealers and second hand. The watch I posted is LNIB (like new in box) and I paid $2800 down from a list price of $8000. Assuming I get the actual watch it will be a "bargain".

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LNIB $2800. Should be arriving tomorrow. Considering the movement and the list price of $7800 I thought it to be reasonably priced. That's assuming it actually arrives tomorrow.

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I do like the look of the one you posted though. I assume with mine the the dial locations are dictated by the movement.

I think Tag get slated due to brand dilution in the 90's by using Quartz movements and more recently they have been having quality issues. Tag we're not the only ones using Quartz movements in "high end" watches. Omega were as well. The 1995 Bond watch of choice was a Seamaster with a Quartz movement. That was a low point!

Edited by h0b0 on Saturday 25th July 01:18

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The watch has landed. Love it. Still in warranty so someone has lost $5k and not worn the thing.

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I'm wearing mine as we speak,



I think there is some validity in people questioning the integrity of Tag using quartz movements in some watches. But, that can equally be aimed at the other manufacturers and that doesn't even start to cover the 007 BS. Anyone dismissing my watch as not being a quality time piece is doing so not because of technical excellence. The movement is worshiped in the Zenith. So, to dismiss my watch is purely based on brand perception which is a statement of fashion being made by the ill informed. Quite ironic if you think about it.

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I will admit that I was hesitant to post that picture because the proportions look odd. In reality, it doesn't look silly and my wrists are far from petite as shown.

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No Bend said:

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I'm wearing mine as we speak,



I think there is some validity in people questioning the integrity of Tag using quartz movements in some watches. But, that can equally be aimed at the other manufacturers and that doesn't even start to cover the 007 BS. Anyone dismissing my watch as not being a quality time piece is doing so not because of technical excellence. The movement is worshiped in the Zenith. So, to dismiss my watch is purely based on brand perception which is a statement of fashion being made by the ill informed. Quite ironic if you think about it.

Put the clock back on the wall. Or get a bigger wrist. Nice clock though.

I have taken your criticism to heart and traded in my "clock"




(21st birthday present from my cousin)

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Totally agree that the photo looks out of proportion. And, I've got remarkably thick skin dispite my girlie wrists. I'm knocking on the door of 18 stone with a BMI approaching triple figures. I'd love to have skinny anything! (Well except dick obviously)

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On the face of the watch it will say Calibre XX. This is the model number of the mechanism. Many are ETA movements which is a company that is owned by Swatch. But, most of the brands have either used Seiko or eta movements over the years. They can modify the movement and claim it to be unique to them. This can be adding their brand or some extreme changes. The double axial Omega is a modified ETA. Swatch also own Omega though along with many other big names.

Tag do use other movements as well. The El Primero from Zenith. This is also used by Rolex in the Daytona. And, the 1887 which is Seiko originally but Tag bought the IP and then modified it enough (in their minds) to claim it to be an in house movement.

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Merch131 said:

BTW The Monaco with the four shock absorbers posted earlier has the Zenith movement I believe.

It does. The Tag Caliber 36 is the Zenith El Primero. The 36 refers to 36,000 movements per hour.